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Subject: Vacation Hold
Date Posted: 5/14/2010 7:42 PM ET
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I have read the help docs  but am not sure if I am understanding them correctly:

In this scenario:

* Book is in the FIFO queue at number 20 out of 40

*Account is put on vacation hold

*10 copies of the book are requested.

*Remove vacation hold from account.

My question:

Does the book go back in the FIFO queue at position 20, or, has it progressed to position 10?

Same question on the Wishlist (if book is not on auto-request). Does the book request continue to progress?, or so you "step aside" and have other peopled "pass you" if any copies of the book are listed?

TIA for clarification, I am going on vacation, but, will still have internet access, and am trying to decide whether to put my account on vacation hold, or, just let it be and entrust my husband to mail out the one of two books that appear may possibly be requested.

Date Posted: 5/14/2010 7:49 PM ET
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It will have progressed to 10.  The date that you posted (or wish-listed) the book is preserved, so in this scenario, you'll move up in line -- and keep your relative position to those who posted (or wish listed) the book before and after you.

Date Posted: 5/14/2010 11:00 PM ET
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How long are you going to be gone? Sometimes if I'm only going to my mother's for a week-I'll leave my account off hold and just hold off an accepting any requests for a few days to give me a longer  mailing option.  So if a book request comes in on day 1-then I just wait enough days to accept the request and choose the last mail by option. 

But if that won't work for you-use Vacation Hold to hold your place in FIFO.  Individual book hold removes them from teh line and you lose your place. But vacation hold keeps moving you up the line and you just get passed over if you read the top until you come off hold.

Date Posted: 5/15/2010 9:26 AM ET
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"...hold off an accepting any requests for a few days to give me a longer  mailing option."

That's a great idea for getting as many requests as possible, but what about the poor slob who really wants that book? Putting off for a few days means a few days longer for the requestor to wait. Why not use vacation hold - let someone else send the book and still preserve your spot in the FIFO.

Makes for better "customer service".

 

wc

Date Posted: 5/15/2010 11:10 AM ET
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but what about the poor slob who really wants that book? Putting off for a few days means a few days longer for the requestor to wait.

But Wayne...you don't know that the next person will mail right away, do you? They may take their sweet time and they would be in their right, as PBS allowed us all that time to accept requests/mail for a reason.

So I'm all for Mary's idea...

 

Date Posted: 5/15/2010 11:24 AM ET
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But I would know that I am the who is not mailing right away. The rules say:

  • You will need to log into your account or check your email once every 5 days if your books are listed as "available" to ensure that you don't miss a book request.
    • Senders have 5 days to respond to a request; after that, the transaction is canceled, and the book is removed from your bookshelf.
    • If you will not be able to check your email during an upcoming 5-day period, you can use the Vacation/Hold feature to make your books temporarily "unavailable"; this will put your bookshelf on hold and prevent incoming requests.

The unwritten assumption is that when you log on and find a request, you will take care of it right away. That's the whole idea of PBS, sending out books that are requested - not working the system.

If you use vacation hold you will probably miss requests, but they will come when you get back and you will be able to send the book out and get the credit. Meanwhile, while I'm on vacation hold, the next person in the FIFO get the request and very well may send it out right away.

If I am going to be away for even a couple of days, I put my shelf on hold - it seems to be the fairest way to me.

Date Posted: 5/15/2010 11:54 AM ET
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PBS gives you 5 days to accept a book request.  It does not say that you have to accept and mail a book as soon as you see the request.  People have lives. Some people travel a lot for work and would have to constantly be on vacation, thereby reducing the # of PBS members. Others have limited postage budgets and need a few extra days to get to payday-shoudl they be constantly on vacation too?  What about people with mobility issues who rely on others to wrap and mail books for them and need a few extra days? Should they be constantly on vacation? 

Besides the next 3 people in line could be inactive and the request sits and times out repeatedly.  The next person in line might let it sit for the 5 days just because you missed their weekly post office day. 

If you are in a hurry for a book then you need to get it somewhere besides PBS or post in teh book bazaar looking for someone who can ship right away. 

If you will have access to your PBS account and can accept the book requests at some point before they time out and mail them within the time frames set up by PBS-then you should not feel guilty for staying off vacation. 

Date Posted: 5/15/2010 5:50 PM ET
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I personally don't trust anyone else to wrap and get my books out (except to mail them).  If I'm leaving for more than 2 days I go on vacation hold.  One never knows...a volcanoe could erupt and you'd be stranded somewhere without internet access!

Ruth

mistie -
Date Posted: 5/15/2010 7:18 PM ET
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Thankyou Patty, for answering my questions.

And, thanks to others for their thoughts and opinions. I've decided to use the vaction hold feature, but auto-request most items on my wishlist. Hopefully, when I come back & 'reactivate my account, I'll get some requests.

Date Posted: 5/17/2010 6:16 PM ET
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If I am reading this correctly, if I use vacation hold, I will not get books sent to me even if I have them on auto-request. Right? Seems to me the best thing is to put books on your shelf onhold but not your account. Yes? No?

Date Posted: 5/17/2010 6:20 PM ET
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Putting books individually on hold loses your place in the FIFO line. So if you have a book you posted 6m or a year ago and put it on hold using the bookshelf hold button-when you unhold you will go back behind all the other copies that were posted since you originally posted the book.  Not a big deal on some books but huge on those books that rarely get ordered or have several hundred copies in the system. 

If you autorequest WL books and work your way up to the front of the line you will get the book even if you are vacation. Assuming it's posted during that time. 

Date Posted: 5/17/2010 6:21 PM ET
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The only thing for WL that vacation hold would prevent is that no one could post a WL book directly to you unless you were 1st in line. But you would still move up the WL line and if you got to #1 while on vacation hold and it was posted, the system would automatically order the book for you.