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Subject: Just venting...
Date Posted: 11/2/2011 4:31 PM ET
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Date Posted: 11/2/2011 4:35 PM ET
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I'm sorry! I hit the enter button by accident!!!

A book became available that I've been waiting for for a year for my husband. My request for it was denied because of my requestor conditions, which are very brief.

Hello fellow bookswapper!

  • Please, no books that come from a current smoking environment.
  • Please, no ex-library books.
  •  

And the reason for the denial was this:

The book does not come from a current smoking home. It is though a yardsale find. So thecover os creased up. 

 

Hello? Is that not what I requested? And did I say anywhere that I cared about a book with a creased cover?  UGH! Maybe I should just remove my conditions and take my chances.
 

Date Posted: 11/2/2011 5:45 PM ET
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I feel you.... I once got an offer for a WL book and she denied with this response-

This is a USED site and you requestor condtitions are extremely picky! It might be better to buy a new book.

I took this as extremely rude and replied with this..

I have just ordered *******   again. Just letting you know I am NOT picky.

The only condtions I have on the book are

-no books from smoking households

-hardcover books must come with the dustjacket

Now is that too hard? I dont think that is at all picky. The book wasnt even hardcover, so that was ruled out vy quickly.  Now the ones that say no dog ears, wear and tear, or spine cresing are shot down immediately by me....I find that extremely picky.

I guess no two people are the same... good luck with your future ventures

 

 



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Date Posted: 11/2/2011 6:24 PM ET
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Thanks McKenna...I feel your pain too! I can't imagine someone NOT wanting to send a book to get a credit.  Either that or they've been burned badly in the past. I see so few people who have requestor conditions and when they do, they're pretty straight-forward and easy to comply with. But I've had several requests of mine denied and their reasons have NOTHING to do with my conditions. I don't get it!

Date Posted: 11/2/2011 6:30 PM ET
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Well if I had only recently purchased the book at a yard sale-I might deny a no-smoking one too. Especially if it's WL and the next person isn't likely to have an RC. I've purchased a used book one day, read it and then posted it the next day.  So really did that book truly come from a currently non-smoking home?  I have a horrible sense of smell so I couldn't necessarily go by that either.

Just point that out.  At least they were polite about it and didn't call you picky or anything.  They may be someone who doesn't accept any RCS and found it's easier to make a neutral comment like above.  They have that right.

(FWIW-I accept most RCS I get)

Date Posted: 11/2/2011 8:29 PM ET
Member Since: 8/16/2007
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I know its frustrating, but I am always glad when people with obviously limited comprehension skills deny my RCs and some may not want to deal with a "picky" person. But I don't want to deal with a knothead or fight the "its a used book, be happy" fight or have a book soaked in total negative karma so I thank my lucky stars when the angry, snotty, and clueless turn down my RCs.

Date Posted: 11/2/2011 8:53 PM ET
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If it's a rarely offered and hard-to-find book, I'd probably remove the RC and take my chances.

Date Posted: 11/3/2011 6:38 AM ET
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I do live in a smoking household, so obviously turn them down. But even if not, I still would...I buy many unique books solely to list from thrift stores that put out mdse as it arrives. For all I know, it was in a smoking household less than 30 minutes ago. Buying the book and my time and postage - I wouldn't "wing it," and perhaps encounter an unhappy recipient. And if I get a request, I'm not worried about turning it down...I must be at the top of the list.

Date Posted: 11/3/2011 9:10 AM ET
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Nancy,

There are some folks who don't like Requester Conditions, Period; and will automatically turn down any book requests with conditions. 

Just as you have the right to put the conditions on, they to have a right to say no.

No big deal....move on.

-RD

Date Posted: 11/3/2011 11:35 AM ET
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I'm very lucky that most of my RCs get accepted, even though they look longer than they are.  It's pretty simple: no ex-library, no hardcover without DJ, no books currently in a smoking home.  But everyone once in awhile I get denials like that. 

I don't understand why people get so upset or defensive over an RC.  You either meet it or you don't, deny or accept and move on.  Life it too short to get bogged down by such things.

Date Posted: 11/3/2011 11:56 AM ET
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I've seen a number of posts that have said that everyone should know that 'not in a current smoking home' really means no smoke odor, so I can see why some, especially those who don't have a strong sense of smell, are reluctant to take a chance on a book they picked up at a garage sale.



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Date Posted: 11/3/2011 12:42 PM ET
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I agree with most of the comments made in this discussion. Why do some people get so offended when there is an RC? I have an RC for currently smoking homes and if people decline politely I am OK with that. I figure my credits cost me roughly a minimum of $3 each - you have the cost of the book (which most of mine are used), plus average postage of $2.41 per book. If I'm going to spend a credit or $3 or more dollars on a used book, I don't want it to stink like smoke or mildew. I'm willing to wait longer to get a book that meets my conditions. What bothers me is the people who are so rude about it.  I have had several ocassions where the declination included snotty comments such as "I don't have time to worry about if my books are good enough for you" or "my books are smoke free but I'm not going to take the chance that you'll claim otherwise and cost me a credit". REALLY PEOPLE??

Thankfully, these people are in the minority on this site and I don't dwell on it - I actually chuckle a bit after I get over being offended. LOL

Date Posted: 11/3/2011 1:30 PM ET
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I had only one person accuse me of being picky with my RCs...then she went on to say that the big old water stains on the book would probably be a problem for me too.  LOL!  I was glad she rejected the request. 

Subject: Just Venting
Date Posted: 11/5/2011 1:27 PM ET
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Date Posted: 11/5/2011 2:16 PM ET
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"...so I thank my lucky stars when the angry, snotty, and clueless turn down my RCs."   Cracked me up Melanie, that's a good philosophy!

Date Posted: 11/5/2011 3:18 PM ET
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Well, it's a matter of perspective.  The woman who sent me a book that looked like her dog puked on it would most likely think that ALL of your RCs are picky and excessive.  She was even nasty with ME when I RWAPd it, saying that it was readable and that's the way she got it, so I should be grateful and shut up... Was I planning on re-selling it? 

Like Rob said, best to just move on.  When you're dealing with people you don't know, from all walks of life, sometimes you just have to have thick skin.

Date Posted: 11/5/2011 3:59 PM ET
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I was a little bummed to have a book on my wishlist turned down due to my RC, but I am glad that they turned it down politely.  :)  I also would be glad that someone who called me picky or emphasized that this is a "used" book site turned down my RC.  I have always taken VERY good care of my books.  I grew up being taught that I needed to treat my posessions well.  "used" does not mean "trashed" and if they are aware that their books are in "used" condition, it's probably not a book that I would want to keep on my shelf, even if it is considered postable.   (FWIW, I do realize this is a used site and as long as the book is postable, I'll accept it, read it and repost. The books by the authors that I really care about keeping I would NEVER get used).  

Date Posted: 11/5/2011 7:09 PM ET
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I often wonder what people think when they decline a book. My only RC is if it's a hardback - I want an intact dust jacket. I specifically state that there are NO RC's for paperbacks. The other day I had a paperback declined because, yes, you got it, it didn't meet my conditions. Oh well. surprise

Date Posted: 11/5/2011 7:12 PM ET
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There are some folks who don't like Requester Conditions, Period; and will automatically turn down any book requests with conditions.

Then why not just say that? As you said, they have the right to decline them but why make up a lie or an excuse? 

Date Posted: 11/5/2011 7:19 PM ET
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I recently pm'd a lady looking for some non wishlisted books in a particular series and had we not already worked out our deal prior to me posting a book to her I would have reconsidered the transaction. 

The RC was long and detailed regarding each series of books on her WL and each series had a different set of requirements and information as to why and who they're for.   I wouldn't be surprised if she gets quite a few auto declines just because most people want simple straight forward transactions and not to have to figure out if their books meet the individualized criteria.     I completely understand people having RC's and honor the ones I feel comfortable with but some go beyond what some people have patience for.

 

Date Posted: 11/6/2011 3:19 PM ET
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I think some people have accepted RC's just to have them marked RWAP, so some members find it easier to just decline them all. Some books from thrift stores or yard sales can come from smoking environment that the sender may not be aware of, so they are just playing it safe. I also have the same RC's (no hardcovers without DJ's and no books from current smoking homes due to allergies), I get some declined that shouldn't be, but it's easier to just let it go. Like others have said, for a hard to find book, you may want to remove the RC at the time of acceptance if you're willing to take the chance on it.

Date Posted: 11/10/2011 8:59 PM ET
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The only RCs I refuse are ones for smoking enviornment.  My house is smoke free but I always take books outside while I am smoking.  Having been a smoker for awhie I cant tell if they stink or not of smoke.  I hate denying RCs but Id rather be safe than sorry. 

Date Posted: 11/10/2011 9:17 PM ET
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The only RCs I refuse are ones for smoking enviornment.  My house is smoke free but I always take books outside while I am smoking.  Having been a smoker for awhie I cant tell if they stink or not of smoke.  I hate denying RCs but Id rather be safe than sorry. 

You are not a smoke free environment (or household) if you are a smoker and are smoking while you are reading the books, so thank you for denying the RCs. People don't really care if you smoke in your house or not, they want to know if the book is being exposed to smoke or a smoker, which they are.  Even if you went outside and smoked, then came in a picked up and read the book, it would transfer the smell into the paper.

A non-smoking household (to me) doesn't just refer to if someone smokes in the physical house, it refers to whether any members of the household are smokers.

Date Posted: 1/4/2012 8:38 PM ET
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I don't care if people have RC's (I do not have any special conditions) but when it comes to smoking, I would have to turn it down. Almost all of my books are used/secondhand, and I cannot promise that they were not around smoke, even through my mom and I are not smokers.

I think some people don't want to be bothered with reading the conditions, although I cannot imagine turning down a credit...seems like I'm forever buying credits here on PBS....

Subject: RCs for smoking
Date Posted: 1/8/2012 4:53 AM ET
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My only RCs are for books that smell strongly of smoke.  I figure if someones turns down the request for that reason, I'm perfectly okay with that as I'm allergic to cigarette smoke. 

I must confess I've turned down requests in the past that have RCs actually longer than the children's book they're requesting. 

 

 



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