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Subject: Von Neumann's War by John Ringo and Travis S. Taylor (spoilers included)
Date Posted: 5/26/2008 3:14 PM ET
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I just finished reading this book and it was bad! Wow, was it a bad book.

Anyone else read this book and felt the same?

I was expecting something more dramatic and action-filled, you know, worthy of an apocalyptic themed book. It felt short of my expectations. Dialogue and characterization was dull (oh, and the pages of boring description on how to build a rocket and spy satellite almost put me to sleep, not to mention hard to understand all the technical jargon!). Then the unrealistic behaviors and actions of the characters *and* the government when faced with a changing Mars (no one found it shocking or was skeptical when the suggestion was raised it could be aliens). I thought it was unbelievable that the scientists and government officials could know what kind of aliens they were dealing with based on a scientist watching a cartoon that talked about von neumann probes and then come up with the brilliant idea that the aliens are most likely...what else....von neumann probes.LOL. The ending ended too abruptly and felt rushed too. Anyways, I was pretty disappointed.
Date Posted: 6/27/2008 3:14 PM ET
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I agree "VonN's War " was not the best book, but Ringo and Taylor got better.  Their 2nd collaboration, "Vorpal Blade" (sequel to Ringo's "Into the Looking Glass)  KICKS A**!

Subject: Awful book
Date Posted: 6/29/2008 1:05 PM ET
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Baen does seem to be becoming a haven for hack writers or far-right wing didactics like Michael Z. Williamson (gack!). VonN's War is surely one of the worst. Sorry, but even in a science-fiction novel it's hard to believe the world will be saved by some nutter survivalist who lives in a cave.

Date Posted: 7/2/2008 4:56 PM ET
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I read Into the Looking Glass and I'll agree it's better than Von Neumann's war. Still it is not a keeper, only good for one-time read IMO. After reading those 2 books I've concluded Ringo's books aren't keepers for me. The only author with Baen publishing I really, really like is David Weber. I've got all his Honor Harrington books and a couple of his spin-offs in the Harrington universe, and I think his newest series looks promising. Only negative, it appears humanity won't face off with the big bad alien race for a long time, this series may be as long as the Harrington series. From what I hear, it's not in his usual vein of military battles in space.
Date Posted: 10/15/2009 6:30 PM ET
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Oh man, I LOVED Looking Glass. It's a keeper/buyer for me. The rest of the series though, yeah, meh...

Date Posted: 10/27/2009 4:23 AM ET
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Lani, I was really enjoying the Honor Harrington books until several books into the series he started to really shove down your throat that the evil, evil libruls are trying to destroy the universe and the only thing that can save us is a beautiful upstanding conservative! It was just too offensive and I had to give up on the series.

Date Posted: 10/27/2009 5:52 PM ET
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I also prefer that authors leave their political POV at the door, but sometimes that's dificult to do when describing the nature of the government or society in the book. Obviously, it has to be structured at some point on the political spectrum. It does seem like many military SF authors are conservatives, so I guess you either like that genre, or you don't. Don't forget that there are plenty of authors out there with a liberal bias, so it cuts both ways.



Last Edited on: 10/27/09 10:47 PM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 10/28/2009 6:45 PM ET
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Don't forget that there are plenty of authors out there with a liberal bias, so it cuts both ways

 

Ain't that the truth! :-D