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Subject: WISH LIST BOOKS FREE with order
Date Posted: 8/17/2008 12:03 PM ET
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I have several books that are currently WISH LISTED.
Order any other TWO books from my shelf and take any one of these for FREE.
Just post here the book you wish for free (so that others will know it is no longer available) and PM me with you order which book you want for free.
First come First Served.
 
NON-FICTION AND COOKING
  1. Through the Window: The Terrifying True Story of Cross-Country Killer Tommy Lynn Sells ISBN-13: 9780312985257 - ISBN-10: 0312985258
    Author: Diane Fanning (2)
  2. The Great Earthquake and Firestorms of 1906 : How San Francisco Nearly Destroyed Itself ISBN-13: 9780520230606 - ISBN-10: 0520230604
    Author: Philip L. Fradkin (2)
  3. The World Is Flat: A Brief History of the Twenty-first Century ISBN-13: 9780374292881 - ISBN-10: 0374292884
    Author: Thomas L. Friedman (98)
  4. Robert Young Pelton's The World's Most Dangerous Places : 5th Edition (Robert Young Pelton the World's Most Dangerous Places) ISBN-13: 9780060011604 - ISBN-10: 0060011602
    Author: Robert Young Pelton (2)
  5. The Long Tail : Why the Future of Business Is Selling Less of More ISBN-13: 9781401302375 - ISBN-10: 1401302378
    Author: Chris Anderson (51) NOTE: THIS BOOK HAS NUMEROUS NOTES WRITEN IN THE MARGINS-ALL IN PENCIL AND COULD BE ERASED-BUT WOULD PROBABLY STILL SHOW A LITTLE.
  6. Joy of Cooking ISBN-13: 9780672518317 - ISBN-10: 0672518317
    Author: Irma Von Starkloff Rombauer, Marion Rombauer Becker NOTE: HARD COVER BOOK WITH NO DUST JACKET. INTERIOR OF BOOK IS VERY CLEAN AND UNMARKED;BUT THE SIDES OF THE PAGES AS THE BOOK IS CLOSED HAS BEEN SPLASHED WITH SOME FOOD ITEM AND THE LAST 10 PAGES OF THE INDEX HAS THIS SAME STAIN. (11)
FICTION
  1. Suite FrancaiseISBN-13: 9781400044733 - ISBN-10: 1400044731
    Author: Irene Nemirovsky (182)
  2. Birds of Prey (Macmillan UK Audio Books)ISBN-13: 9780333698662 - ISBN-10: 0333698665
    Author: Wilbur A. Smith (1)
  3. Water for Elephants ISBN-13: 9781565125605 - ISBN-10: 1565125606
    Author: Sara Gruen (2)
  4. Gloss ISBN-13: 9780778324423 - ISBN-10: 0778324427
    Author: Jennifer Oko (5)
Date Posted: 8/17/2008 1:02 PM ET
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lynn, i don't think you are allowed to just offer wish list books as freebies (to get around the wish list) unless they are damaged in some way.

Date Posted: 8/17/2008 3:51 PM ET
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Jessyka is correct, you cannot offer a WL book in the Book Bazaar. Per the rules listed in the sticky thread at the top of this forum:

General Rules in the Book Bazaar:

(6) No trying to jump the Wish List "line" by offering or asking for postable Wish Listed books.  Postable Wish Listed books should be posted and swapped "officially".  This of course does not apply to posts advertising an alternate ISBN  (or non-ISBN version) of a Wish Listed title; it is fine to advertise that you have those posted to your bookshelf.

Date Posted: 8/17/2008 3:59 PM ET
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But, as the signature above implies, if you add slight cleaving, it's fine to offer those same wishlisted books as unpostables with an order of 2 from your shelf :-)

Sorry, I couldn't resist being obnoxious.

Date Posted: 8/17/2008 4:05 PM ET
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So i struggle with this:

From a line-jumping perspective, Paperbackswap supports both a queue system and a free-market system (with restrictions).  We all know how the queues work.  But we can also buy directly from our friends shelves and we have a bazaar that allows people to “jump in line” to get rid of books by offering deals or showcases.  Therefore, this means that users with the longest posted book are not entitled to get rid of their copy before any others (that’s a pure queue system).  So why are users wishing for a book for the longest period of time entitled to that book before anyone else on the site gets it.  I like the way the site has offered us the different alternatives (both queues and personal transactions), but so long as the site is going to support both alternatives, it’s hypocritical to offer a 2 for 1 special on your books but not accept that a book you're wishing for could be given to someone else directly or as part of a deal, even though you are next in line.

 

 

Date Posted: 8/17/2008 4:41 PM ET
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I think this is more of a "asking for more than one credit per book" issue. Those who really want the book will pay two credits for other books from her shelf just to get the WL book. And that is against the rules.

Date Posted: 8/17/2008 5:13 PM ET
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Good argument.  I don't have much of a counterpoint. 

If I have a WL book that might cost me more to mail than the $3.45 price for a credit, I'd argue that packaging it as a multi-credit deal is the only way to be economical about it.  (While it may be altruistic to offer a hefty hardcover for a credit, it's cheaper to buy the credit from Paperbackswap) 

But I know that's not a valid enough point against the greater issue of auctioning.

 

Date Posted: 8/17/2008 11:14 PM ET
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Steven makes the best point.

If you can offer any deal at all on your shelf then you are going around the rules by "beating the First in First Out Rule" -so if that "RULE" doesn't apply, why is it wrong to offer books on wish lists. "Wish Lists Rules" must be more sacred then "First In First Out Rules" ...so I guess all rules aren't created equal. Guess this isn't a democratic book club after all.

And as far as Kristina stating that I am "asking for more than one credit per book"  she must have attended a different school than I did. Because my offer states that I will send out 3 books for 2 credits. One ordered book plus one ordered book equals Two Credits Pus you get a Free book and that Equals 3 Books for 2 credits where I went to school; or only two thirds of one credit per book, NOT MORE THAN ONE CREDIT PER BOOK!  But if asking for less than a whole credit (which I am doing) is "against the rules" than I am certainly in good company!

Quite frankly I don't care that much about the credits. I do care about the cost of the postage and shipping out one book at a time is very costly. I have way too many books on my shelfs and they aren't moving as fast as I would like. Gee, maybe that is because of that FIRST IN FIRST OUT RULE that really isn't a rule and all of my books that could have been  the next one out is getting passed up because of someone elses free books offer. Do you suppose?

And as for not being able to post wish list books for a deal unless "they are unpostable or otherwised damaged",  then I guess I'll add that these books are all "damaged". I'm sure I saw a yellow highlight mark on the inside cover of all of them.....

So now what rule am I breaking??

 

Date Posted: 8/17/2008 11:32 PM ET
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Since "a yellow highlight mark on the inside cover of all of them" does not make a book unpostable, the same one. I am not sure why people feel so put out by this rule. They ask us to not do it, so why not just do as they ask?

If the site allows people to use WL books as incentive to order of their shelves, the PBS WL feature (which is one of the biggest differences here from other sites) becomes junk and the BB turns into a chaotic mess of people offering WL books and people "bidding" on them. I want a book I am 893rd in line for, all I'd have to do is go here and say I'll order 3 books from your shelf. The next person who wants it comes in and offers to order 4 books. and on and on and on. OR on the flip side, I have a very popular book, I go into the BB and ask people to PM me what they are willing to order from my shelf in order to get this book.  Multiply that by all the books heavily wishlisted and you can imagine the mess. I totally understand the postage issue. I completely understand the draw in getting an order for a not popular book with the incentive of a WL book. I also accept that the site leaders have asked us to refrain from doing this in the Book Bazaar.

Guess this isn't a democratic book club after all - it isn't, it has owners who have set rules to make the system run the way they want it to run.



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