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Subject: Wash, Rinse, Repeat....
Date Posted: 2/27/2008 11:54 AM ET
Member Since: 3/10/2006
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Monday I'm offered a  WL book. Member rejects my very simple RC of "it's winter, please wrap book in plastic" with the response of "Sorry, I don't have special wrapping."  Sigh.  OK.  Moving on.  Today I get offered the SAME book, and then it's rejected again with the message "Sorry, I don't have special wrapping."  

Since rejected RC transactions are not listed in the transaction archive (which I find maddening), I can only guess this is the same person.  How many times do we play this game?  It's not fun.

Date Posted: 2/27/2008 12:32 PM ET
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Sorry, but that's just NUTS.  Is there any house in America that has a computer, but does not have a single piece of plastic of any kind?  No saran wrap, no ziplock baggies, no empty grocery sacks, no cereal box liners, no bag from newspaper delivery or produce from the grocery store? I'd like to see it.  Even printer paper comes wrapped in plactic! (well, the two I have right now, did. I know some come in paper)

That "excuse" is just pure pigheadedness and/ or laziness. 

Date Posted: 2/27/2008 12:35 PM ET
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I agree.... who doesn't have SOMETHING plastic?  I guess is possible, but not probable.  I can't imagine a house not having saran wrap?  I know I sure can't live without it :  )

Date Posted: 2/27/2008 12:42 PM ET
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maybe be a little more specific?  perhaps that person is having trouble thinking of what to use so list a few suggestions and maybe put in your user ID so if they have questions they can find you and PM you BEFORE rejecting?

Is the book in pending status right now or are there any copies?  perhaps next time it is in pending status you can look and see who you are waiting on and PM them in advance?

just a random thought



Last Edited on: 2/27/08 12:43 PM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 2/27/2008 1:00 PM ET
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The idea of including some examples was good.

Maybe something like:

"Please add some layer of plastic due to constant winter wetness where I live... I am OK with anything plastic layer, saran wrap, grocery bags, used cereal bags, ziplock, toilet paper roll wrapping, newspaper wrapping, old bread bags, produce bags, shrinkwrap from any package, garbage bags, used ballons, anything will do, I promise"

Date Posted: 2/27/2008 1:00 PM ET
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If someone turns you down for RC, you shouldn't be offered that book by that person again.

Date Posted: 2/27/2008 1:07 PM ET
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If someone turns you down for RC, you shouldn't be offered that book by that person again.

I know that's what the site says, but I've had it happen several times where I've turned down a book that didn't meet conditions, and had it requested again by the same person (same conditions anyway) in a week's time.

Date Posted: 2/27/2008 1:09 PM ET
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I didn't think that you would be re-offered the same book from the same person if they declined you offer. Maybe they've got multiple accounts?

As foc the sheer pigheadedness and/or laziness, I'll have to politely disagree. :) If I'm mailing a single book that fits in a manilla envelope, I won't bother to wrap in plastic. If I'm mailing several books, I wrap them in wallpaper, so I wrap them in plastic, just in case the wallpaper gets wet and sticky. I figure anything over required PBS, two-sheets wrapping is going over and above the call of duty, so I don't feel obligated or think it's necessary (although I do understand having the condition).

Date Posted: 2/27/2008 1:24 PM ET
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You can only have two accounts per household, and I've had at least 2 books roll through 3 times each.  The conditions weren't generic either.  The same typos, etc. were there.

Date Posted: 2/27/2008 1:31 PM ET
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In the age of people going green, I can see people not having plastic wrapping of any kind in their house.

On the initial issue, you shouldn't be offered a book that's declined because of RCs. I have seen it happen with 2.-3 people wishlist, for some reason it will cycle back through the same people regardless. Did you check to see if the first transaction was denied on RCs or cancelled and in your transaction archive? I have one that accepted, sent me a snotty message about my RCs, and then cancelled, so I was able to see who they were in my transaction archive.  It may go away after this one.

Maybe if she keeps seeing your order she'll get frustrated, go get some plastic, and send you the book :)

Sorry your wrapping RC is causing an order to be turned down, I have had great luck with mine, only the one previously mentioned snotty turn down since I added mine. One of the last books I received DID ignore it, but I got the book safely and assumed they just didn't remember the RC.

 

Date Posted: 2/27/2008 2:02 PM ET
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In the age of people going green, I can see people not having plastic wrapping of any kind in their house.

I can understand that to a point - I'm a treehugger myself - but I would find it hard to believe there are that many zero plastic households out there (no bread bags, saran wrap etc.).  I think I'll take Lita's suggestion above and include some examples of plastic that can be used, as I'm thinking this person feels like he/she should be buying some sort of special plastic for the mailing.

I really don't want to have this RC but I live in a high wind rural area, so oftentimes my packages blow right out of my mailbox and into nearby snowdrifts (or the road). 

There's no reason why this offer should've gone to me twice.  There are 37 others wishing for this book.

Cathy A. (Cathy) - ,
Date Posted: 2/27/2008 2:06 PM ET
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There is a bug in the system that causes this. Robert explained it to me once a long time ago. It must be tough to solve, because people keep posting about it. When it happens, you just have to write to R&R and say you're caught in a wish list loop for <book title> and they can fix it.

Date Posted: 2/27/2008 3:05 PM ET
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Thanks Cathy.  I think if it's offered to me a third time I'll do just that!

Subject: plastic
Date Posted: 2/27/2008 10:04 PM ET
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I find it really hard to believe that people wouldn't have SOMETHING plastic to wrap books in.  You might not have a whole lot, if you are trying to recycle, but there must be  something..................by the way, I have all of the above on the list that Lita had.....and I do SOME recycling!

I work at a fast food resturant and when i  open a pack of syroform plates, they come in this really nice sized plastic bag.  I just might start taking them home............



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Date Posted: 2/27/2008 10:35 PM ET
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I can see where you'd be frustrated with getting the request to the same person, and I would definitely contact R&R about that...but as for the refusal itself, I don't see a problem. Just as any individual has a right to list requestor conditions, I think it's any member's right to refuse an order with a requestor condition, too.

Cheryl

Date Posted: 2/27/2008 11:41 PM ET
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It does indeed happen that books seem to re-cycle to the same sender through when RCs are rejected.  I once had one grow increasingly angry with me for continuing to request  her book!  (My RCs are specific enough that she knew I was the same person.)

That said, if the sender doesn't have plastic wrap, perhaps she has access to a tyvek envelope or cereal bag, or one of many, many other items that might be useful to keep books dry.

patticom - ,
Date Posted: 2/28/2008 2:55 AM ET
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I agree that defining it might help... although it seems pretty straight-forward and simple to me, if someone is in a hurry or never received a saran-wrapped book, they might not even think of that.  They might see "wrap in plastic" and automatically translate that to bubble wrap (that's what packages come in, right?).  :)

Date Posted: 2/28/2008 9:21 AM ET
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i too have had a person turn down my book request because they did not have anything to wrap the book in. i find that really hard to believe....very annoying. i got the book from someone else eventually, though.

Date Posted: 2/28/2008 12:24 PM ET
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Some people turn down any request with conditions at all and this may that kind of person.  I turn down any request that asks for excessive packaging, like-new, near mint books or pm's about the books conditon.  I would accept a simple request to wrap in plastic though.  But some people decline any request with conditions. 

Date Posted: 2/28/2008 4:34 PM ET
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And remember that the system makes you give a reason for why the book doesn't meet conditions. The sender may have just been trying to be diplomatic when describing the reason.  Since the sender has a right to choose to send the book only in PBS standard wrapping, any request for non-standard wrapping is for "special" wrapping. 

Subject: Hmmm
Date Posted: 2/28/2008 6:29 PM ET
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Well.. I can say that there have been plenty of times i've had no plastic to wrap the books in.. so, I've waited till the next day when I go to work, to grab a bag. My husband takes our grocery plastics back to the store to recycle them, and unless you have tons of products that you haven't opened laying around the house, I can see where she didnt. I myself would not use saran wrap, because it can be pricy.

So, I can understand why she declined it. 

Date Posted: 2/28/2008 7:03 PM ET
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I would not want a book wrapped in a bread wrapper or cereal liner.