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Subject: Water Damaged?
Date Posted: 1/21/2013 6:34 PM ET
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Got a hardback book in the mail that I am debating marking RWAP or not. Some of the pages of the book are wavy; one page in the middle and then a group of like twenty pages near the end are wavy. There are no obvious stains or markings, no running ink or anything, that suggest water damage but they are definitely wrinkled and wavy in a way that looks a bit water damaged.

If the whole book, all the pages, were water damaged, I'd chalk it up to humidity and not worry about it. But the fact that it is random pages spread through the book make me think it is possibly RWAP. I look at it and, personally, it wouldn't be the kind of book that I'd feel comfortable mailing out to someone but, then again, I'm kind of picky about what I send out because I like to avoid even the chance of getting marked RWAP. What do you think?

Date Posted: 1/21/2013 6:56 PM ET
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Can you feel a texture change on any of the wavy pages? Sometimes the light matters in showing the damage you might want to see what it looks like in daylight. But your description sounds like water damage to me.

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Date Posted: 1/21/2013 10:59 PM ET
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You can have steam damage to smaller areas. Someone suggested in a different thread to take an iron to it, that may help.

Date Posted: 1/22/2013 12:24 AM ET
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Sometimes what we must accept without RWAP doesn't always stand up to our standards of sending out when we are a little pickier about what we send and we end up being the end of the line for a book. If you cannot determine that it IS water damage, then a RWAP would not be warranted or fair. A RWAP isn't for an "I think it might be.." problem, it is for problems. Yes, typically any type of waviness that is not uniform to the book is liquid damage, but if the page texture is not changed, there is no discoloration, there is no spottiness to the waviness on the pages, then I don't know how I could argue a book had liquid damage with any certainty.

Date Posted: 1/22/2013 12:29 AM ET
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About the only time I've seen water damage that didn't have visible water lines was finger/hand prints and splotchs (like rain).  Would your waves be in that type of pattern?  Otherwise, water damage along the edge or cover of a book always seem to leave some form of discoloration.

Subject: New?
Date Posted: 1/22/2013 11:29 AM ET
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Is it a fairly new book? Some publishers seem to be using some lightweight, cheesy paper these days, even for full-price hardback editions. I bought a new one last month that had a section of about 20 pages that were wrinkled in the middle of the page only only, which sounds somewhat like the book you received.

Date Posted: 1/22/2013 12:29 PM ET
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Could the damage be from one of the paper clip type bookmarks?  I've put waves in many books using one of those things in my pre-PBS days.

Date Posted: 1/22/2013 4:18 PM ET
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What Margaret said   +1

Date Posted: 1/24/2013 11:47 AM ET
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Okay, thanks guys. I'm going to mark it received and not as a RWAP. I may try to iron or steam out the pages so that I can post it again but, if that fails, I'll just donate it to my local library. Thanks for the advice :)