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Subject: wavy pages :(
Date Posted: 6/4/2008 12:24 AM ET
Member Since: 8/17/2005
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Hi I know I have been lucky as I have never had a really bad book until today....The thing is the person sent the book and packaged it VERY well...However all the pages are mega wavy ..water damage...the cover isnt too bad to GOOD in fact..I wonder if they didn't look inside the book abd had it setting on its side and it sucked up water....No way was it damaged in the mail ....It had to be packed that way...I reported a problem but receieved and asked for my credit back....However I am disappointed this is even an issue...I think this may be a new member ...I am thinking the site is going downhill ..I wish they would take credits away when there is an issue...As I didnt get home till late I just marked it read with problems...Ya know I have been a member for years and hated to both run into this and to have to report it .

Anyone else seeing issues? I have a  book I requested back in May 26 .....still nobody has marked it accepted...ugh....and there are many copies...I don't come here often much anymore

Date Posted: 6/4/2008 6:44 AM ET
Member Since: 7/31/2007
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are you sure it is water damage...alot of the new books at the store get those wavy pages as soon as they hit the humidity of the out doors...

no, not seeing a trend of bad senders...



Date Posted: 6/4/2008 7:20 AM ET
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like Christy said, it could just be humidity.  Are the pages very stiff or have any noticeable stains?  Those are some indicators of water damage.  If they're uniformly wavy thru the entire book, and are as 'flexible' as any normal book page, then it may be humidity.

Date Posted: 6/4/2008 8:17 AM ET
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I have bought books brand new off the shelf and they had wavy pages in the entire book. It's irksome because supposedly they aren't supposed to be posted, but when it's a brand new book that hasn't even been read yet, it's very upsetting. There is a difference between water damaged pages and wavy pages caused by cheap paper meeting humidity,

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Date Posted: 6/4/2008 9:11 AM ET
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I, too, have taken brand new books off the shelves at books stores that have wavy pages. Cheap paper that is used for paperbacks is the culprit. I can't speak for the book in your possession but not all wavy pages are caused by water damage. In my opinion, water damage is very, very distinctive.
Date Posted: 6/4/2008 9:22 AM ET
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I ditto everyone else. The conditions don't say "No wavy pages", they say "No water damage".

Water damage is distinct, usually including staining or a a clear point where the damage ends and those pages become stiff and brittle. The damage is often only along some of the pages (usually from a spill) and not uniform throughout the book.

Wavy pages can happen just from humidity in the air or the way the pages were bound together. I find these all the time with brand new books.


Date Posted: 6/4/2008 10:49 AM ET
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Don't get discouraged!  Sometimes things happen.... but the site has methods in place to take care of problems, as you said you did report it.  I know its a hassle to deal with though.  I don't know about you, but I have had so many MORE positive experiences from this that counteract any negative ones I had.  I have been introduced to more books I never would have known were out there, gotten books that would have been way to expensive for me to afford at the bookstore, and been able to share my love of reading and with special books with others - something I can't find anywhere else. 

After the aggravation of dealing with this problem settles, I hope you are able to take a second look at the site and see if you have recieved similar benefits!


Date Posted: 6/4/2008 12:08 PM ET
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I've not had a single problem so far (knock on wood) with problem books.

and ditto to what the rest said, it may not be water damage.  If I know that I sent a book out that did not have water damage but wavy pages, I wouldn't refund the credit because I know that I didn't damage it (and I'm very picky when going through my books and I make sure they meet PBS standards)

I think there are plenty of good people here and you only hear about the bad ones/trades.  For every bad trade there is probably 100 good ones.

Date Posted: 6/4/2008 2:01 PM ET
Member Since: 7/31/2006
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I doubt if one unfortunate transaction after a history of good ones indicates a trend of going downhill...  I prefer to think of these things as isolated incidents that happen every once in a while.

Date Posted: 6/4/2008 8:06 PM ET
Member Since: 8/17/2005
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Thank you everyone for the replies....The lady did credit me back. and was very nice...I did state it was water damage. in my post above.....not just wavy pages but pages that were wavy DUE to water...or a spill...Its very noticable when you open the book..I can see the water ..or liqiud line...and  well I have been around books enough to know water damage....Thanks all..Now I have to figure out how to let the club know this was resolved..I am not fussy and  have never had to do this and am still learning the site after YEARS...Thank God she was a good PBSer

Date Posted: 6/4/2008 8:07 PM ET
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Sandy, if you go into your Transaction Archive, there is a button on the RWP transaction's that you can use to indicate it was resolved. Its a fairly new feature.

Date Posted: 6/6/2008 1:50 AM ET
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THANKS MEL....I did take care of it and everything is good...


again thanks all