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Subject: What is a broken spine?
Date Posted: 1/17/2008 4:54 PM ET
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I recently received a book and am currently reading it.  i just noticed that there is a section in the book where the pages separate away from the spine.  They aren't falling out but I can see the spine through the glue and it will automatically open to that spot. Other than that it is in great shape and I may want to post it again. Would this be acceptable or does it have a broken spine?

Date Posted: 1/17/2008 5:06 PM ET
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Kim, I have two images up of broken/cleaved spines. Hope this helps.  Broken Spine

That sounds like a broken spine and exactly like the images in the above link. I personally wouldn't post.



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Date Posted: 1/17/2008 5:11 PM ET
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If you can see the spine, whatever you want to call it, it is not postable. PBS doesn't assign a name to it, just states the following about the binding:

Binding:

  • Must be intact, with no separation on the inside or outside of the book
  • If the book tends to open at a particular page, this is OKAY
Date Posted: 1/17/2008 5:27 PM ET
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Thanks Trish and Sherry.  I thought this was the case.  I guess I need to check my books more carefully when I receive them.  Since it's been a couple weeks I feel weird contacting the sender.  Oh well, lesson learned.

Date Posted: 1/17/2008 8:18 PM ET
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This is the number one problem I have with books I get here.

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Date Posted: 1/17/2008 8:48 PM ET
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Just a quick note, many books aren't made as well as in the past, and I've heard of books just suddenly getting cleaved, fine one minute, cleaved the next.

So, it is very definitely possible that a book can be fine when sent out to you but arrive cleaved.  USPS is not known for being gentle.

Date Posted: 1/18/2008 12:03 AM ET
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That's hard to imagine, since what usually cleaves them is being opened.

Date Posted: 1/18/2008 1:17 PM ET
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And I had to learn the hard way...DON'T open the packages/books until they are at least room temp otherwise if they are on the verge of breaking, they more than likely will when opened cold.

Date Posted: 1/18/2008 2:35 PM ET
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I learned the same thing Trish.  I live in WIsconsin and had brought a book in from my van and when I opened it I heard it snap.

Date Posted: 1/18/2008 2:53 PM ET
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Yep, that's cleaved/broken.  For some reason, I have received a lot of those lately.  I have been marking them RWP....the last person I received one from told me I should be thankful for the book and refused to give my credit back.  Nice.

Date Posted: 1/18/2008 3:31 PM ET
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What is worse is knowing the book is brand new, I mean straight from the printers and then opening the book and the spine breaks! ARGH! I am not rough with books and have been taugh how to carefully open them but these days it seems like all you need to do is breath wrong and they crack the spine. I blame inferior use of glue.

Everyone knows Lulu.com right the self publish site, well the books from their are better quality then half the paranormal romance books that just arrived at my library. I am not even going to try and open them since I know they will break.

Date Posted: 1/18/2008 10:03 PM ET
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I too have been getting books like this in my PBS wishlisted books lately. I haven't marked any with a problem, is that what you should do? I feel like I am being so picky because we can still read them but they are not able to be posted again. I know 2 of the books are like brand new but have this cleaved spine as the pictures show. I guess I will have to check alot more carefully when the books arrive. The paperbacks seem to be the big problem for me.

Date Posted: 1/19/2008 9:23 AM ET
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Yes, Jeanne, mark them RWP, because that is against the posting rules.  And I am getting tired of people thinking that it is okay to send them like that.  Once they cleave like that, they will start to fall apart.