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Subject: What is considered 'fair condition'?
Date Posted: 6/29/2009 6:26 PM ET
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I just received an RC indicates the recipient wants books in fair condition and with the binding not falling apart (definitely not, so not an issue). Since I have an RC, I try to accept any that I can, but I'm just not sure about this one. The book is in pretty good shape but it is still a used book with some dog-earred pages and some spine creases. I can't PM her for more info without accepting the request and possibly losing my place in the FIFO line.  So, I thought I'd ask here. What do you consider 'fair condition'?  Thanks! 

Date Posted: 6/29/2009 6:31 PM ET
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No idea...that's why RCs need to be clear and not subjective. My idea of "fair" condition (or "good" or "decent" or whatever) might be different than yours. I would decline for that reason.

Cheryl

Date Posted: 6/29/2009 6:36 PM ET
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Decline the RC. But in the box for your response, tell her that you are not sure what she means by "fair" condition. And, if you are interested in having her possibly reorder the book from you, add your nickname so she can PM you, if she wants to.

Date Posted: 6/29/2009 6:50 PM ET
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Thank you for your help!

Date Posted: 6/29/2009 6:54 PM ET
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I find that kind of an amusing RC, because I would normally consider "fair" as falling *below* "good"  (great, good, fair) and PBS books are supposed to be in good condition.  It's almost like she's saying they don't have to be as good as usual, though that's probably not what she intended. :-)

Date Posted: 6/29/2009 6:55 PM ET
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I like Sara P suggestion.  The RC is too vague and subjective.  She might think dog ears put a book in the bad condition category when really it's a perfectly postable book. 

Geri (geejay) -
Date Posted: 6/29/2009 7:18 PM ET
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I'm with the majority - too subjective so I'd turn it down.  But I was curious what my too favorite book sites considered fair.  Not there!

On Half.com when you want to sell a book you have to select the condition of the book

Brand New; Like New; Very Good; Good; Acceptable.

On Amazon Guidelines for New and Used Books items:

• New: Just like it sounds. A brand-new, unused, unread copy in perfect condition.
• Like New: An apparently unread copy in perfect condition. Dust cover is intact; pages are clean and are not marred by notes or folds of any kind. Suitable for presenting as a gift.
• Very Good: A copy that has been read, but remains in excellent condition. Pages are intact and are not marred by notes or highlighting. The spine remains undamaged.
• Good: A copy that has been read, but remains in clean condition. All pages are intact, and the cover is intact (including dust cover, if applicable). The spine may show signs of wear. Pages can include limited notes and highlighting, and the copy can include "From the library of" labels.
• Acceptable: A readable copy. All pages are intact, and the cover is intact (the dust cover may be missing).

I learned something new with those Amazon conditions - I always considered a book that was read once to be like new not very good.

Date Posted: 6/29/2009 7:44 PM ET
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I find the Amazon categories confusing--what's the difference between Brand New and Like New, if neither has been read?  And the Acceptable description sounds better than the Good description.

Date Posted: 6/29/2009 7:52 PM ET
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Thanks for posting those Amazon catagories.  I got a laugh thinking about the RCs that say "new or like new condition."  Under the Amazon categories this would mean "never read."  As for the OP's question, I too am someone who tries to send on RCs if I can, but I would not accept one with a subjective description of a book condition.

Date Posted: 6/29/2009 8:07 PM ET
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I find the Amazon categories confusing--what's the difference between Brand New and Like New, if neither has been read?  And the Acceptable description sounds better than the Good description.

Like new -- apparently unread vs. unread. Some people handle books very delicately, so just by looking one can not tell if the book has been read.

Acceptable -- basically just guarantees the cover and all the pages are there. I think all the description in the "good" category distinguishes it from "very good"

Date Posted: 6/29/2009 9:25 PM ET
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When you order a book in "Fair" condition at Amazon.com you actually get a very abused book.