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Subject: What should I do? Cover not attached to binding.
Date Posted: 10/20/2009 2:47 PM ET
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Okay, I need some advice/opinions. I received a book and it looks practically new.  But the cover is not attached to the binding of the book.  I'm not sure if it was a problem with the manufacturing or what.  It seems like the front cover and first page are detached from the binding and the back cover is just barely holding on.

Should I mark this as RWAP?  I don't really care about getting my credit back because I could glue the book and it would still be usable.  I'm just not sure what to mark it as.  And I also don't want to get into it with the sender.  Should I mark it RWAP and just tell the sender the problem and that I'm going to mark this as resolved?  I just hate getting PMs from senders that are all defensive and full of attitude!  And I don't know how to word my own PM without sounding like an idiot.

 

I might just mark this as received and leave it at that.  

Date Posted: 10/20/2009 2:55 PM ET
Member Since: 6/17/2006
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If it's a glue problem it's possible that it was in one piece when sent and the glue got cold and brittle.  Not sure if this is what happened but possible.  I've had a few MM paperbacks fall to pieces in my hand from bad glue.  (no PBS books though!)

Date Posted: 10/20/2009 2:59 PM ET
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You should mark it as RWAP and let them know that the binding is not attached to the book, which is against the rules.  It is possible that the book was damaged in transit, but you want to make sure that the sender isn't sending unpostable books.

It is up to you if you want the credit back. That is totally up to you.  Keep in mind that gluing the binding may not make it postable again and you will be out the credit.  

Date Posted: 10/20/2009 3:17 PM ET
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I would also mark it RWAP. I have received at least 2 books in this condition. One even looked brand new. Each time the sender swore up and down it was postable when they mailed it, but you never know if they are telling the truth or not. Marking books as RWAP helps PBS to weed out the senders that are not playing by the rules. You don't have to ask for your credit back, but if the sender purposely sent out a book that did not meet PBS standards, this will let him or her know that it's not the right thing to do and will not be tolerated.

Date Posted: 10/20/2009 4:29 PM ET
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Are you positive it's not one of those that is never attached to the back/middle of the binding? These are designed to be able to lay the book completely flat without stressing the binding. The pages are sewn together rather than glued and are glued at the last pages only. When you hold the book by the outer boards, with the pages hanging down, there is completely no connection between the book and the outer cover. The pages hang from the outer connection and swing/sway in the middle. There's a name and somewhere on the net, pictures, but I'll be hanged if I remember what or where. Maybe some other knowledgable person will come help to clarify what I mean.

Date Posted: 10/20/2009 6:04 PM ET
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Sherry, I've only seen the sewn pages with loose spine binding on hard covers?  I have seen a couple similar to OP (on like new books), IMO it's a quality control issue in production.  Feel free to glue it suiteangel, elmers works fine.  Mom was a school librarian for years, and that's how she would repair that book.  Will also keep the condition from deteriorating further.

Date Posted: 10/20/2009 6:47 PM ET
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They do it on paperbacks, too, expensive ones. I have some paperback textbooks and cookbooks with bindings like that.

Date Posted: 10/21/2009 7:34 PM ET
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Denise, I didn't see anything in her post to suggest that it was a PB, and having just had a couple HCs that had that type of flex binding, I just automatically thought that was what she might be talking about. I can't say that I've ever seen it on a PB either, like Sara says, the expensive ones, you wouldn't be surprised to see it. I have seen it in cookbooks for that matter. It's really nice, totally a way to prevent cleaved and cracked spined, but I"m sure it's a more expensive way of binding than just the glue types.

Date Posted: 10/21/2009 11:40 PM ET
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True Sherry, that's a durable and flexable binding, and the OP didn't say which cover she has.   I've seen it used more on hardbacks tho.  And the last year or so, have seen several tradesize paperbacks with the cover seperating from what appears to be manufacturing defects.  Some of the smaller, independant publishers seem to have been inflicted with this problem.