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Subject: What is library rate??
Date Posted: 1/20/2011 3:34 PM ET
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I just recieved a huge (and heavy) box of books I got as a set from a member here. She was able to send them via "library rate" somehow and she only paid $2.26 postage!! I'm assuming that she was not supposed to use the library rate, I pay more than that to mail one book via media mail. I kind of feel cheated since I sent her several credits for the books and she shipped them practically for free. :-/

Date Posted: 1/20/2011 4:11 PM ET
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I'll be interested to hear the answer from someone in the know. My understanding of library rate is that it is to be used only for mail to/from museums, educational institutions, public libraries, or other qualified non-profit institutions -- so it would seem that a PBS member would not be able to use this rate.

Date Posted: 1/20/2011 4:15 PM ET
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My understanding is the same as Deb B. I don't believe that individuals are allowed to use it, though occasionally someone gets away with it. 

Date Posted: 1/20/2011 8:48 PM ET
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She is definitely misusing the service, I am surprised it got to you. From usps.com

 

Library Mail  
Send between educational organizations and museums.
Items on loan from or mailed between academic institutions, public libraries, museums, and other qualified organizations can be sent using Library Mail.

Content is limited to books, sound recordings, academic theses, and certain other items.
Advertising restrictions apply.
Each piece must show in the address or return address the name of a school or nonprofit organization.

 

Date Posted: 1/21/2011 1:14 AM ET
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I thought it was a defunct rate.  But reading the guidelines it appears that Library Rate is not intended for personal use.  Dicey. . .wonder what would have happened if a postal employee had noticed?

Date Posted: 1/21/2011 12:26 PM ET
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When people cheat the post office the rates go up for all of us.  Worse than that, when book-related rates are misused it gives the PO a reason to eliminate those rates.

Diane



Last Edited on: 1/21/11 12:27 PM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 1/21/2011 12:36 PM ET
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I doubt the sender was trying to cheat the system, they probably got a confused postal clerk. However, you should probably PM them and let them know that someone made a mistake and they risk having things arrive postage due if it happens again.

Date Posted: 1/21/2011 3:14 PM ET
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I know of a couple of librarians who are members here--both school library and public.  They each joined PBS to help save money on out-of-print books, and often get replacement copies for books that are lost or worn out through here so they can save their budget for new releases.   Since you have to sign up at PBS as an individual, it's not impossible to have an individual's name on something that is meant for a library.  However, whoever is shipping the books should know that the return address should be the library itself, not an individual.  The librarian friends I know of just use media mail rate anyway for their packages.  For their purposes, it's still much cheaper than having to track down an OOP book online and having to pay a premium price.  So, while I tend to think it may have been someone trying to get over on the system or a confused postal worker, I'm going to give the benefit of the doubt and say maybe they just didn't know.

Date Posted: 2/11/2011 1:50 AM ET
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Sheila, the member in question MAILED books to another member here, not the other way around. 

So it can't be a case of a PBS member being a librarian and trying to obtain books for their institution......they are the sender in this case.

Of course, it is possible somebody took a box of books to the post office, and the postal clerk could have been new and just figured books/library rate or whatever.

 

Had I been the receiver, however, I would not worry about the extra credits sent for postage.......anything one does voluntarily in the spirit of good will and fairness is returned somehow, even if the person on the receiving end doesn't do it justice.  wink  You did the honorable thoughtful thing........I don't worry about other people's "karma".....

 

 

Date Posted: 2/11/2011 9:40 AM ET
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I am an interlibrary loan  librarian & I get books all the time at work marked library rate. If she works in a library she could use  use the library rate, although I could not because I work  at a government facility with  Mailroom & they do the shipping.  Allie

Date Posted: 2/11/2011 5:58 PM ET
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To or from a school, library or even a charitable organization.  Of course, you need to make sure the qualifying information is clear so that the USPS doesn't have it arrive postage due.

Date Posted: 2/11/2011 8:04 PM ET
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The regs I found say:

Send between educational organizations and museums.

Which is different than:

To or from a school, library or even a charitable organization. 

Date Posted: 2/12/2011 8:00 AM ET
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From the USPS web site:

• Items may be mailed to, from, or between educational institutions, public libraries, museums, or nonprofit organizations