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Subject: What is your opinion?
Date Posted: 2/16/2010 12:53 PM ET
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I ordered a book and it was marked mailed a couple of weeks ago. The sender used PBS DC.

 I noticed today the "details" look a little odd. It almost looks like the wrapper was reprinted on 02/15/10. When I went to USPS and tracked it, it just said they were notified by the shipper on February 15, 2010 to expect a package for mailing.  I know that sometimes it is not scanned in, etc. and I know "life" gets in the way sometimes LOL. But it did make me wonder if it was ever mailed on 02/04/10. 

Its a WL book and I guess I would appreciate a PM if it was going to be mailed 2 weeks after marking it mailed.  I know in the help docs it says: "If you marked the book mailed but did not mail it and you want to mail it late (more than 4 days after the date you marked it as mailed),  you MUST contact the requestor using the PM button on the transaction, to be sure that the requestor still wants the book. "

Oh well. I guess I will know when the book gets here. No big deal. I guess I was just having a curious streak.

2/15/2010 10:00 PM - Electronic Shipping Info Received

 

Request Date:
1/28/2010 6:36 PM ET
Will Mail By:
2/3/2010 11:00 PM ET 
Label Print Date(s):
2/2/2010 9:59 AM ET
2/15/2010 8:12 PM ET
 
Date Mailed:
2/4/2010 9:36 AM ET 
Estimated Arrival:

3/3/2010 ET

 

Date Posted: 2/16/2010 1:19 PM ET
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I'd PM the sending member and ask politely when it was actually mailed.

Date Posted: 2/16/2010 2:20 PM ET
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My guess would be they didn't mail it until the 15th. I would make a note of it once you mark it received in the box for comments that is just for PBS. It would have been nice if they'd have sent a PM about it, but in my experience it doesn't happen often (only the responsible members that happened to experience a problem are the ones who PM). I guess they just don't care because they figure you're going to eventually get it. I just quietly let PBS know and figure if they make a habit of being careless it's going to catch up to them.



Last Edited on: 2/16/10 2:21 PM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 2/16/2010 2:27 PM ET
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With the bad weather in many parts of the country, the sender might not have been able to mail the book. The sender should have contacted you though if there was a need for mailing the book late.

Date Posted: 2/16/2010 2:28 PM ET
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Check the city and state where it's coming from.  It could be someone who was snowed in for a while.

Date Posted: 2/16/2010 2:29 PM ET
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I've been known to print out lables multiple times, because Adobe doesn't like me. Every so many months it just stops working in various ways and the only way to test it is to reinstall and then the program out again and again to see if it works. And since I don't use it if I can help it, about the only place I use it is here. I had once where I re-printed a label maybe half a dozen times before I got Adobe working again.

So a 'reprint' may not really be a reprint, but a test of the system.

Date Posted: 2/16/2010 2:33 PM ET
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So a 'reprint' may not really be a reprint, but a test of the system.

Wouldn't that leave the "electronic shipping info received" date as the 4th if that was the date they first printed and mailed?

Date Posted: 2/16/2010 2:41 PM ET
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I just pm'd a sender with the same question when was the book mailed. The information has so many label printed dates starting with 1/27 and the last being 2/2  I hope the books were mailed no dc on them but I really want them, one was a wishlist book

Date Posted: 2/16/2010 2:54 PM ET
Member Since: 11/14/2005
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The books have DC on them, that's the only way there's any tracking information. As for the multiple printing dates, some people don't realize they can get the requestor's information  form the details button, so they reprint the wrapper if they want to know for sure who/where it's going to. I know I've read other say that they've done this for that very reason. What this person's actual reasons were, I have no idea, but I would just assume it was reprinted for information rather than so that it could be mailed on that day.

Date Posted: 2/16/2010 3:33 PM ET
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If there were multiple printings of this label, the dates should all be logged under the transaction details.  I only see one - from the 15th - in your post.  If there is no entry for the 4th or earlier under "Label Print Date(s):", it's a safe bet that a label was never printed for that package before the one logged on the 15th.  I'm less clear about the logging when you select the option to hand-write a label and what shows up in the transaction details - I've never used it - but you do have to click on the tab to print a wrapper before you can get to the tab to get the address to hand-write it, so I'm guessing it is the same.  Based on all that - my guess is that the label wasn't downloaded or the book actually mailed before the 15th.

*ETA: Wouldn't that leave the "electronic shipping info received" date as the 4th if that was the date they first printed and mailed?

Yes.



Last Edited on: 2/16/10 3:37 PM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 2/16/2010 3:40 PM ET
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The important thing to do is to fill out the survey when you do receive the book -- the late mailing date will definitely trigger an alert on this sending member's account, and they will get an email about mailing late. If they have a pattern of mailing late that could affect their membership here. But as others have said, remember that the sending member could have been badly affected by the blizzards that have raged through the Atlantic states.

Date Posted: 2/16/2010 7:13 PM ET
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When I went to USPS and tracked it, it just said they were notified by the shipper on February 15, 2010 to expect a package for mailing.

This indicates they didn't print postage until the 15th, so that will probably be the ship date.  Even if they were snowed in, they should have sent you a PM letting you know that the book was being mailed late.  As a matter of fact, they should have let you know when they missed the "mail by" date. 

They had to have clicked on the "I mailed book" link on February 4th (as indicated by the "Date Mailed: 2/4/2010 9:36 AM ET ), otherwise the order would have timed out and you would have gotten your credit back. 

I think this situation definitely warrants a PM from you asking when they actually mailed the book.



Last Edited on: 2/16/10 7:13 PM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 2/16/2010 7:21 PM ET
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Honestly, I think anybody actually checking the postage dates has way too much time on their hands. The time-sensitive aspect of the trading is merely a mechanism put in place to keep trades moving, and to prevent people from accepting a trade and then letting hang there for months on end without shipping the book out. I once received a book six months after it was marked as shipped. Did I check the date? No, I just marked the book as received and assumed postal error. If someone is that desperate to receive a book within a strictly defined time period, they should just go out and buy it. There are enough things in life worth worrying about to get bent out of shape over a free book being shipped to me four days later than it was supposed to be.

Date Posted: 2/16/2010 7:22 PM ET
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Oh, BTW - the first sentence of my reply was NOT a direct reference to the original poster. They were actually cool about the whole topic. Just a general statement.

Date Posted: 2/16/2010 7:43 PM ET
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They had to have printed the label before the 15th in order to mark it mailed on the 4th.  It won't let you mark a book mailed if you haven't accessed the address. 

I don't normally even pay attention to mail by dates and such as I don't really care when it was mailed as long as I get it before it goes lost.  It's just a book. I just don't want to stress myself over mail by dates and such.

I will PM someone if a WL books times out without being marked mailed and they printed the address.  I just do that so I can put the book on hold on my WL and make an effort to not end up with 2 copies. 

If a book goes lost enroute to me, then it goes lost.  If I don't hear from the sender then I assume they didn't send it and reorder the book a couple of weeks later.  If I hear from them then I'll hold off on reordering or I'll put the book on hold on my WL.  My thinking is if they really sent the book then they're more inclined to PM me and ask me about it. If they didn't really send the book then they aren't likely to bring it up with me.

Date Posted: 2/16/2010 8:26 PM ET
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It looks like the c&p formatting of the transaction archive got a little weird looking when the OP posted it.  The Label appears to have been printed on 2/2 (the day prior to the 2/4 "mail date") and then again on 2/15 - this time with DC.

Label Print Date(s):

2/2/2010 9:59 AM ET
2/15/2010 8:12 PM ET

I'd say it is possible that they mailed the book and it was returned to them for whatever reason, and they shipped the book back out.  However, they really should have sent you a courtesy PM.



Last Edited on: 2/16/10 8:28 PM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 2/16/2010 8:33 PM ET
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Just a few weeks ago I clicked on print wrapper by mistake on the wrong book. I realized my error before I printed  it but the system still had the last print date as that day, even though I had already mailed that book days before. So it could be a simple mistake.

Date Posted: 2/16/2010 9:15 PM ET
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It looks like the c&p formatting of the transaction archive got a little weird looking when the OP posted it.  The Label appears to have been printed on 2/2 (the day prior to the 2/4 "mail date") and then again on 2/15 - this time with DC.

Ah ok, there it is.  I was looking for a printing on or before the 4th & didn't see one, but that looks like it.  I thought maybe the mailed 2/4 could have been a glitch, because I mailed some books out yesterday and they had weird looking date stamps on them.  And then I also got 2 "final notice" emails on requests I had just accepted the night before.

Date Posted: 2/16/2010 10:11 PM ET
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If someone is that desperate to receive a book within a strictly defined time period, they should just go out and buy it. There are enough things in life worth worrying about to get bent out of shape over a free book being shipped to me four days later than it was supposed to be.

It's not that we need the book that fast. Four days isn't bad, it's when the sender is careless and waits a week or two or three and then never says, "hey, stuff happened but the book is on its way."

People also often ignore the PBS rules for book condition saying it's just a used book and we could go buy it if we want it new. Condition and shipping times are important and there so that people get good books in a timely manner. So unless we do away with RWAP then shipping on time, imo, also remains an important aspect of the club.