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Subject: What would you think about this RC??
Date Posted: 5/31/2009 11:06 PM ET
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I just went to my Acount Page and there was this RC.

 

"Please, no books that are dirty and shabby, and/or with oxidized pages and/or smelling of smoke.  Thank you."

dirty and shabby I can probably deal with.  Oxidized pages??  Smelling of smoke??  It did come to me used, but I've never noticed a smoke smell.  I guess the "Oxidized" means yellowing??  I really do need some credits - but I'm not willing to risk a RWAP for RC's if this is as vague as I think it is.  I need some input.  Help!!!

Ruth

Date Posted: 5/31/2009 11:13 PM ET
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Just went to look and my copy is the only copy right now.  I think.

Ruth

Date Posted: 5/31/2009 11:15 PM ET
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"Dirty" is clear enough, but "shabby"?  "Oxidized"???  What does that mean?  Anyway, I wouldn't accept an RC that asks me to judge a book's smell.  It's just too subjective.  Some people have very sensitive noses, others are completely opposite, and still others, like me, are inconsistent.

Date Posted: 5/31/2009 11:41 PM ET
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I had a book request today with the same RC and had the same question as you - what's oxidizing? Looking in a dictionary gave no clue of how it might relate to books, but I think the member is using it as a substitute for yellowing.

I turned down the request stating I didn't understand what was meant by oxidizing. And I added that if oxidizing meant yellowing, then the book didn't meet the RC because the pages are slightly yellowed.

Pam

 

Date Posted: 6/1/2009 12:02 AM ET
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that's what I think, too.  I think I'm going to declline with an explanation of why and my nickname to get in touch if they want to.

Ruth

Date Posted: 6/1/2009 2:31 AM ET
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I would decline

Date Posted: 6/1/2009 7:42 AM ET
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Decline, too subjective.

Cheryl

Date Posted: 6/1/2009 7:49 AM ET
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I assume oxidized means either yellowed pages or perhaps spotting (foxing), but who knows what that person means.   I would decline,  based on that and also on the "smelling of smoke" condition b/c of reasons stated over and over in this forum. 

Date Posted: 6/1/2009 8:51 AM ET
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Date Posted: 6/1/2009 9:31 AM ET
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"I assume oxidized means either yellowed pages or perhaps spotting (foxing), but who knows what that person means."

OOoh that leads me to a question:

Does "foxing" count as stained? I have lots of old books I've been afraid to post because they have brown spots from age.

Date Posted: 6/1/2009 10:04 AM ET
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This is my rule of thumb on RCs.  If I can clearly understand what the person means and my book clearly meets the RC, I will send the book.  If I have to think too hard about what is meant or the RC is vague and highy subjective, I will decline.  I'm not willing to forfeit a credit because someone has a differing interpretation of "oxidized pages" or whatever.  It's truly not worth the headache.

Date Posted: 6/1/2009 10:44 AM ET
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Amy - in the past most of the TGs seemed to believe that foxing is a normal aging of the book and was postable. The issue I could see is that you would run into someone who doesn't know what foxing is and they would consider it a stain.

Oxidizing is a reaction to oxygen or to cause something to lose electrons. Since all books are exposed to oxygen and most of us don't have the ability to test the electron levels, an RC like that will be turned down frequently. I rarely turn down an RC I can meet, but this one would be one that I would probably turn down unless I had a book I'd bt brand new.

Date Posted: 6/1/2009 1:26 PM ET
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It's a clunker RC.

Shabby? I understand it, but it's silly word.

Oxidizing? Even sillier.  Is the book made of metal?

Smelling of smoke. Ahhh, forget it.

and foxing is something I've never heard of as well. Learned something new first thing in the morn.

I'd accept only if my copy was in excellent condition.

Date Posted: 6/1/2009 6:50 PM ET
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Oh for heavens sakes, who comes up with all these conditions?  If a person is going to be that stinkin picky they need to go to Barnes and Noble and buy a new copy.  I swear some people.  Not worth your time and postage girl, decline it.



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Date Posted: 6/1/2009 8:39 PM ET
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Well, I agree.  I declined. It was an RC I'd never seen before.  I guess it gets points for the "??" factor!   But they can contact me if they want to - I told them how - if they read the refusal comment that PBS puts in the email. 

If they want it cheaper than new, they could order it under the 4-for-3 deal through Amazon.  That's how I got my book prior to finding PBS.

Ruth

Date Posted: 6/1/2009 10:42 PM ET
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Very interesting RC. yep I would've declined too. lol people!

Date Posted: 6/1/2009 11:14 PM ET
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I'd turn it down for smoke smell(because I don't smell it usually).  I always thought of oxidized as rust--but I've never actually seen a rusty book, so I'm guessing it means something else.

Geri (geejay) -
Date Posted: 6/2/2009 8:59 AM ET
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My rule of thumb for RCs now is if I can clearly understand what the person means and my book meets the RC, I will send the book. 

If I have to think about what it means or the RC is vague and highy subjective, I decline.  Thankfully, I've only seen a couple of vague RC's and one had me shivering in my shoes when I sent the books.  Yep plural so I hated to decline. 

I just don't want the possible hassle with dicey RC"s..

Date Posted: 6/2/2009 11:26 AM ET
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I've seen "oxidizing" used to describe something that's color has darkened with age.  (No, that's not my RC)

I'd reject it for the smoke condition alone, too subjective.  I can only ensure that a book is not currently in a smoking household.