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Date Posted: 2/26/2012 10:39 AM ET
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difference between pdf  and e books??  And if it says e book can it be put on a nook?? Yep I am a dummy when it comes to all this modern stuff LOL

Date Posted: 2/26/2012 11:08 AM ET
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Ebooks are any books that come in a digital format. There are various formats. Ebooks can come in .doc, .txt. .rtf. .html, .azw. .mobi, .pdf and .epub just to name a few. Then there's those formats with and without DRM (digital rights management) in some way or another those will be locked and can only be opened by a certain person or machine. Ones without DRM can usually be converted to other formats and opened on other devices. First thing to do is look up the stats on yor particular machine and see what formats it says it can open. Them you'll know what formats to look for when buying and/or downloading.
Date Posted: 2/26/2012 11:11 AM ET
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pdf is just a formate that different eReaders reconise so you can read the ebook.   Tho most will read a pdf its hard to adjust them To be read.  I put my pdf in calibre & change the format.  MOBI for my kindle or EPUB for the Coby.  Then you can change font size for easy reading.

Date Posted: 2/26/2012 11:44 AM ET
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PDF is usually a format I won't bother with. Even when converted there are usually spacing problems.

PDF was designed to copy and digitize full 8 1/2 x 11 documents. They were meant for use by business and for business documents, so trying to read them on anything less than a monitor is pretty futile sometimes. Depending on the author's settings, some fonts can be resized, some can't. Some can do text flow and look nice on a smaller machine, some can't.

And you can't tell until you try to read one if it's going to be legible or not on a small machine. Tablets can sometimes read them well, but even the best program can struggle with trying to make them comfortable to read.

Date Posted: 2/26/2012 11:58 AM ET
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I downloaded some free books a while back and at that time didn't have any kind of a reader.  I downloaded them in pdf so I could read them on the puter, of course I find that it is boring to sit in front of this thing and read a book. I now have a nook and was hoping to put the books in it.

Date Posted: 2/26/2012 12:38 PM ET
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yes, you can load any PDF onto your Nook. Some of them may be formatted badly, but you can load and read. Here's how:

1.Open Adobe Digital Editions (assuming you've already downloaded this so you can check out books for free from the library)

2. Click on "library" in the top left corner, and then "add item to the library"

3. Navigate to wherever on your hard drive you saved your PDF's and ePub's that you got from another source other than B&N (this works for Fictionwise, Ellora's Cave, etc)

4. Click on the book you want to load to your Nook so that it's file name appears in the File Name box and click. That will load it into ADE.

5. Hook up your Nook to your PC, deal with any pop up boxes you get and look for the Nook to be listed to the left in ADE. Drag the file from the main ADE over to the Nook and there you go. It will now be on your Nook.

Date Posted: 2/26/2012 1:16 PM ET
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You can also use Nook for PC to move your PDF (Adobe Acrobat) books to your Nook. 

 

Date Posted: 2/26/2012 1:29 PM ET
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I have to say a word about Adobe Digital Editions.  This was designed as a side product by Adobe, which is in the business of making software for businesses.  It really frustrates me.  It has very poor help and directions. 

The Nook program might fit your needs better.

(I use Calibre.)

Date Posted: 2/26/2012 2:08 PM ET
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I don't really have an opinion one way or another on ADE. It's required for library downloads and I wear them out, so I learned with that program. I'm sure there are other ways to do it.

Date Posted: 2/26/2012 2:40 PM ET
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I do use it to open library books.  As there is basically no other way unless you check out Kindle books. 

But ADE has basically no directions and no help.  The help option sends me to Adobe's website, which really does not help at all.  Just gets me more lost as it is aimed at computer business professionals.  Not lay folks or library patrons.

Date Posted: 2/26/2012 5:01 PM ET
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I've had luck with PDFs on my Nook Color tablet, its easy to change the text size. Perhaps the Nook Touch can do the same thing, I don't know. I think the Sony T1 can.  With the NC I just put two fingers on the screen and spread them apart, it enlarges the text. Easy! I refuse to read PDF on my Kindle, way too tough to deal with (for me and my old eyes).

Date Posted: 2/26/2012 5:33 PM ET
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PDFs show up nice on my iPad. But my early Nook is just so confused. About a line or two per page. It takes major fiddling with the format in Calibre to see them in comfort.
Date Posted: 2/26/2012 5:39 PM ET
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My son in law just downloaded all my pdf's into my nook and they look great.  I did download a bunch from amazon which went into the cloud reader, they are for kindle only so they can not be put on my nook BOO HOO  lol.  I did find some of the books on barnes and noble and was able to get them on my nook. Will have to wait until the other go as freebies then will download them also.,

 

Thanks to all who helped me out

 

Just to be sure, I can not download any e books from amazon on my nook is that correct????



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Date Posted: 2/26/2012 6:21 PM ET
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You have to change the format.  Amazon books come in AZW or mobi, which Nook does not read. 

Some Amazon books are available to be downloaded in ePub.  You would have to look at your account to see if that is an option.  Otherwise Amazon eBooks automatically come in AZW.

Here are two blogs about formatting that I bookmarked for myself.

EBook formats and DRM

ABCs of eBook format conversion

Date Posted: 2/26/2012 8:47 PM ET
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Bertie, what Nook do you have? Is it a black & white Nook Touch, or the Color?

Date Posted: 2/26/2012 10:53 PM ET
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Can we change the format at Amazon afterwards? Or does it need to be specificed when buying? I'm not sure that I ever bought an non AZW eBook from them. But I know that there are some.
Date Posted: 2/27/2012 6:20 AM ET
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Emily, if you get a book that does not have DRM, yes, you can change the format. There is one way to check that I know of--on the product page if it says Unlimited, somewhere...I can't find an example right now.

Date Posted: 2/27/2012 7:26 AM ET
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Fictionwise lets you choose the format to download, but you only get one. If you want a different format, you have to re-buy the book.

Date Posted: 2/27/2012 7:53 AM ET
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OK, I downloaded Calibre and did that directions thing on the link from Emily. One book I bought at Amazon converted to Epub fine. The other popped up the DRM warning. So, I guess I will continue to buy the cheap books at Amazon when the same is not offered at B&N and continue to read them on my Ipod through the Kindle app if they won't convert in Calibre. Is that about my limits right now?

Date Posted: 2/27/2012 9:21 AM ET
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No, Nancy! Not fictionwise. I always download more than one format there. (at least for the multiformat books, which are the only ones I buy).

allromanceebooks.com is the site I know of that you can only get one format.

Date Posted: 2/27/2012 9:23 AM ET
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Nancy if you have other devices that run Android such as smart phones, tablets, then you can put the Amazon app on those and read your Kindle books there, too. I heard that you can put the Calibre reading apps on such devices too. Not sure if that would work on DRMd books, though.

To remove DRM you can google Apprentice Alf's blog and follow the steps there. It works for some, others don't have luck. I can't tell you why that is. It worked on one of my computers, but not on my others. 

eta: just gave it another try on my laptop and it worked this time! Just download the latest tools and follow the instructions. No need to "customize plugin" I think that's what I was doing wrong.



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Date Posted: 2/27/2012 9:28 AM ET
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Fictionwise does have locked and multiformat books. Multiformat you're free to download any and all of them. But the secure ones you're only allowed the one locked version.

When the Agency Six disappeared most of them were secured format. So there seems to be more multi-formats there than not. So be careful which ones you buy because those locked ones can sneak up on you.

Generally the locked ones can't be discounted and are the same price as amazon anyway. So I'll get them from there rather than FW.



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Date Posted: 2/27/2012 9:51 PM ET
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Yeah, I know I can read on my phone also, but my phone and my work laptop sync up. I know the attchments and .jpegs cross over. I have to assume that books wouldf as well, being a downloadable media.

There are some things they don't need to know at work.