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Subject: whats going on?
Date Posted: 1/25/2013 8:55 AM ET
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i was looking for a copy of Angus Donald's " Warlord" so i went to Amazon and WOW!! they wanted $ 418.17 for a copy ?? and $473.36 +3.99 for a used one and one of the dealers wanted over $1000.00 for a copy

what's going on??    and Abe Books don't even list.    it just wondering

Date Posted: 1/25/2013 12:44 PM ET
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I have no idea.

Date Posted: 1/25/2013 3:23 PM ET
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There are online discussions about the outrageous pricing on Amazon that propose several different theories. A couple that sound plausible: sellers don't actually have the book and so put in an outrageous price so that they won't have to relist the book when they get a copy and/or automatic algorithmic pricing. Other theories range from sellers hoping a buyer unwittingly clicks on the "one-click - buy now" button to tax evasion. I'm on my iPad so can't provide a direct link but here's an article about a biology book that was listed for millions of dollars: http://www.michaeleisen.org/blog/?p=358. But if you buy Angus' book for hundreds of dollars, rest assured you could get a credit by posting it!! (Hint: it's on my WL.)

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Date Posted: 1/25/2013 8:15 PM ET
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  From what we know of our Angus, I'm sure he would find that hysterical!  (And he would help you find a copy at a normal price.)

Date Posted: 1/26/2013 11:57 AM ET
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This is something else I found on AZN, John:

Warlord: A Novel of Robin Hood [Hardcover]

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This title will be released on November 12, 2013.

I don't know what the publishers are doing with Angus' books. Right now, I don't see Warlord available on Book Depository either. I got a copy for Kindle when it first came out and that's not available anymore either. But there seem to be preorders at Book Dep and AZN (Kindle) for Grail Knight. You may want to grab one of those while you can. The next title will be Iron Castle and he will have that written by August.

Date Posted: 1/26/2013 9:11 PM ET
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John --- I just pre-ordered "Warlord" in paperback from Amazon.co.uk for 12.22 GBP.  Then I pre-ordered "Grail Knight" from Book Depository for $21.58.  Don't know if that helps you any or not.  In the end, both copies will hit the inventory here at PBS as I do not keep books.

Date Posted: 1/26/2013 9:24 PM ET
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When Book Dep first announced that they had Warlord and the same with Grail Knight, they were available for $15.88. That's why it pays to order right away with them, especially since the shippng is free.

Date Posted: 1/26/2013 9:35 PM ET
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You are so right Jeanne --- I dilly dallied around and now am paying the price!!!!!

Date Posted: 1/29/2013 9:43 AM ET
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John wrote to Angus and asked me to post Angus' response.  Having read his response John, I have to say that this is seems to be the same publisher that has refused to release Jeri Westerson's books into paperback and has told her that if sales don't meet their sales projections that they won't go to the expense of releasing a more affordable paperback version, or spring for a second printing of the hard cover once it is sold out.  I fear that many of the authors we discover will get a 3 or 4 book deal and if they fall short of projected sales that they will not have their contracts renewed.  We vote with our dollars, but it doesn't seem to be enough.  It seems that many publishers increasingly want their authors to release novella's  between regular books, and while I think it is a fine idea, I for one am getting tired of novellas, It's like having a snack when what you want and need is a full meal.  The publishing industry is changing just as the music industry has, LP's have nearly disappeared, in favor of the single.  So we are left with things like 50 Shades of Grey, and Twilight, popular and not well crafted. 

 

Dear Mr Long – I quite agree that $1000 is an outrageous sum to charge for one of my books. And, it is particularly annoying because I wouldn't see a penny of that. It must be a private individual playing silly-buggers – nothing at all to do with me, I promise. 

 
The problem is that, as I am a British author, my books are published here in the UK a good year or so before they are published in the USA. Warlord was published here in July in hardback and, sadly, all the copies have now sold out. And the publisher is unwilling to reprint that hardback version because the paperback is coming out in May (in the UK). My US readers will have to wait until November to get hold of the American version of the book – as that's when St Martin's Press is bringing it out in your neck of the woods as an e-book and in hardback. The US paperback will come out in 2014.
 
However, if you don't want to wait until November, I believe that you might be able to order the UK paperback version from Amazon.co.uk or The Book Depository and, while there might be small shipping charge, you will find that books are much cheaper in Europe. The paperback of Warlord will probably retail at under $10 – although I make no promises as I don't control the prices, that's the publisher's preserve. 
 
I'm sorry that you have found it so hard to get hold of a copy of Warlord at a reasonable price but I hope I have been of some help to you. And I hope that you continue to enjoy the adventures of Robin and Alan.
 
Best wishes, Angus Donald
 


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Date Posted: 1/29/2013 11:12 AM ET
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I heart Angus

Date Posted: 1/29/2013 12:13 PM ET
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Yep.  The first book in that series is probably next up for me, or maybe second, if I decide I want a bubblegum read first.

Date Posted: 1/29/2013 3:27 PM ET
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publisher that has refused to release Jeri Westerson's books into paperback and has told her that if sales don't meet their sales projections that they won't go to the expense of releasing a more affordable paperback version

Is it me, or does this seem backwards to y'all? Wouldn't it be cheaper to just start with the pb edition?

I for one am getting tired of novellas, It's like having a snack when what you want and need is a full meal. 

Now, there I'll disagree. smileyI'm feeling quite stuffed at the moment, although I do truly like a good Penman or Chadwick door stopper. There are so many that just ramble beyond what's necessary to the story. Of course, I don't necessarily want this rambling to become a novella, either. Not sure what the solution is. Better editing?

Date Posted: 1/29/2013 3:33 PM ET
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I personally think that "novellas" are just a publisher's way of getting MORE MONEY --- call me jaded, but for the most part until E-books became so popular, we did not see this plethora of "novellas".  Okay, so I am old & tight fisted --- I do not buy them!!!