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Subject: While we're on the cover subject?
Date Posted: 6/10/2010 9:28 AM ET
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I have received books with taped covers going around the spine front to back.  Sometimes at the top edge and sometimes at the bottom edge. Sometimes it is obviously a library book and other times no library marks,  I really never thought anything of it. 

Is this considered postable. 

Date Posted: 6/10/2010 9:52 AM ET
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Yes, books that have covers that were laminated, either by libraries, publishers or previous owners are postable. Some are laminted completely, some just a strip up the spine to over lap onto the front and back covers. A little extra protection for a spine/cover is a good thing.

Date Posted: 6/10/2010 12:34 PM ET
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The tape on the cover is not what makes it unpostable, its when there is an unpostable tear under that tape that the book breaks the postability rules.

Date Posted: 6/10/2010 1:54 PM ET
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Janice- sometimes libraries put that tape on there to strengthen the covers AND so they can remove all library labels without damaging the book. 
Chances are it could be an exlibrary book that they felt would be popular and bought extra copies they planned to sell afterwards.

Date Posted: 6/10/2010 6:40 PM ET
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Does that mean that a piece of clear packing tape along the spine (overlapping a bit onto the front and back covers) doesn't make a book unpostable, as long as it's not taping over an unpostable rip? Or does it have to be some kind of special book tape? I use packing tape with some of my older books to reinforce the spine, and I thought that made them unpostable, but I'd be happy to know if that's not the case. Thanks :)

Date Posted: 6/10/2010 6:48 PM ET
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Sarah, long as there are no tears already on the spine. I would say it was postable as many library books are done that way for the same reason.

You could always ask TPTB and see if they will clarify it.

Date Posted: 6/10/2010 7:31 PM ET
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Yes, tape on books is postable, as long as it is not repairing an unpostable rip.

Date Posted: 6/10/2010 9:15 PM ET
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thanks :-)

pardon the newbie question, but who/what is "TPTB"?



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Date Posted: 6/10/2010 9:35 PM ET
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The Powers That Be which is the PaperbackSwap Team. You can ask them questions by sending in Feedback via the Contact Us link in the lower right.

I don't think contacting them is necessary. As long as you do a neat job of it, there really isn't any postability issues you'd be breaking by reinforcing the book with tape as long as it isn't an attempt to cover unpostable tears.

Date Posted: 6/10/2010 10:35 PM ET
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If a book is taped when new, the tape is generally smooth and tight.  Libraries generally use a very high quality acid free tape that ages well to do this.   A packing tape may not age as well. 

Date Posted: 6/11/2010 2:56 AM ET
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Often times people will tape a book's ends or sides or spine as it starts to get a little worn, but has no torn yet. This prevents the tear from coming sooner than later. There's nothing in the rules about taping a book. But, if it's obvious that the tape is there to cover up an over long tear, then it is unpostable. But, if there only a weakening spot, or smaller within the guidelines tear, then tape is not a problem.

Date Posted: 6/11/2010 11:17 AM ET
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Packing tape isn't the best stuff to use for reinforcing spines.  High heat & humidity will make the adhesive gummy, and it dries out, gets brittle, and tends to peel away from the spine over time.  The best thing to use is acid free book tape - I use Scotch brand: http://www.dickblick.com/products/3m-scotch-845-book-tape/ 

It looks like packing tape, but it's quite a bit different.  It stays flexible and will actually outlive your average paperback book cover:P

Date Posted: 6/11/2010 11:21 AM ET
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Scotch is good, the 2inch is the best size to get as is more verstile.

Brodart also makes a fantastic book tape that has more strength then scotch and its my preference..

BUT I have found the book tape in some situations does not outlast the book because if the book is coated  the tape can tear this off and you've this light colored strip down the sides and spine.   You have to apply it first go or this can happen. No do overs..LOL

Date Posted: 6/11/2010 5:08 PM ET
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Thanks for the tips! I'll definitely go tape-hunting :-)

Date Posted: 6/11/2010 5:19 PM ET
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I'd add that if someone has a "no ex-library books" requestor condition, I wouldn't send them a book that had reinforcing tape, even if it hadn't been a library book.

Date Posted: 6/12/2010 1:12 AM ET
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I respectfully disagree with that statement, Patty. I can't see where that would affect the book being in a library at all. I've personally sent books that were reinfored with tape to someone with no ex-library book RCs and didn't hear amy thing from them.

I can see what you are saying that it might make it appear that it could have been an ex-library book, but if it indeed isn't one, then there's no reason to pass up a credit, and if they balked, I'd tell them they need to put "or books that look like they might have been ex-library books" and would NOT refund their credit no matter that they mark it unresolved. I know I am a member in good standing, and don't have a ton of unresolved issues or flags of other nature on my account, so one here or there, that I'm confident of isn't going to hurt me.

Date Posted: 6/12/2010 4:51 AM ET
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I should have clarified -- I wouldn't send a taped book to someone with "no ex-library books" RCs.  The two have the same feel to me -- I look at a taped book and think "library".  But there's no rule about that, and someone else would be free to do so.  I don't need credits at this point, and wouldn't want to send a book that would disappoint.  And of course I am free to decline an RC for pretty much any reason :-)

Date Posted: 6/12/2010 6:48 PM ET
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Most of the ones I've taped myself were former library, and had all of the gazillion stickers - which I despise - over binding tape.  I usually remove all of that gunky, unsightly stuff, clean the covers, & then replace the binding tape - although there are cases where you just can't without peeling off some of the cover along with it.  Most of the books I've done look a lot better than they did  though, and have lasted very well.  And I usually think former library book when I see binding tape myself.  Many people don't know there's any such thing as binding tape, and lots have only seen it on library books.