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Subject: Who is your most hated heroine? Mine is the Whiner
Date Posted: 6/18/2008 9:29 AM ET
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I just started this book by Laura Lee Gurkhe (one of my favorite authors) The Marriage Bed and I'm thisclose of throwing to the wall because the heroine is such a whiner. And if there's a personality type I hate, are whiners, and this woman tops them all.

She's extremely beautiful, rich, young, healthy, titled (married to a Viscount and the sister of a Duke) but she can't tolerate her husband because....he told her he loved her and it wasn't true!!!! So they've lived apart for eight years and now the husband needs his heir and she doesn't want to comply becuase you know...he told her he loved her and it wasn't true!!!! Boo, boo! Poor beautiful, rich, young, healthy, titled woman!!! Boo, boo!!!

And when she realized this...did she try to make him love her? Of course not! She cried and fought the husband, became a block of ice, didn't allow him to touch her and the husband went to look for other entertainment . I'm not trying to absolve the cheating husband here and I understand her behavior at the time because she was 18 but I cannot understand her attitude now. She's supposed to be a mature woman not a whining teenager!

I've felt like smacking her so hard. Get a grip! There are people freaking starving in the streets and she can't realize how fortunate she's been all her life. Now's the only time when she's been asked to do her duty and she shirks from it because you know.......he told her he loved her and it wasn't true!!!!

Sorry for the rant...I hope this woman grows up because if she doesn't, I won't continue reading this book.



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Date Posted: 6/18/2008 10:18 AM ET
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I can't stand the ones who keep a man's kid from him...ick...and one of those is a good book that I've read as part of an IM series..good except it bugs me that she kept his child from him not sure if he was 'worthy' to be his father..so he was such a bad  guy she could screw him? but I think some of that doubt came after the one night stand because he was working undercover etc and she thought he was in illegal arms or something...

Date Posted: 6/18/2008 10:51 AM ET
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I hate the runner. "Oh, we just had sex, I need to run away and hide with spinster aunt!" or "I don't think you love me because you wont say it (even though I wont say it either) so I am going to sneak out and run away even though my life is in danger!" or "I'm pregnant, but we just had an argument last night so I am going to run and hide in my country home until I deliver the baby (the one I never bothered to tell you about)!"

Somehow I just can't seem to picture a real HEA with women this flighty.



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Date Posted: 6/18/2008 11:20 AM ET
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I hate the idiot who can't tell the hero her big, dark secret, or accept his help in dealing with her big, dark secret - even though he's usually the only person she knows who has shown himself to be intelligent, caring & trustworthy enough to actually be able to help.  In spite of all evidence to the contrary, she'll continue not to trust him and will lie to him right up to the last few chapters of the book, and then he finds out and helps her anyway.  And of course 9 out of every 10 of these nimcompoops had a really stupid big dark secret to begin with:P

Date Posted: 6/18/2008 1:09 PM ET
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not sure if he was 'worthy' to be his father..so he was such a bad  guy she could screw him?

ok off topic but I have to respond to this lol yes sometimes guys are ok to screw but not father material. lol

Date Posted: 6/18/2008 4:22 PM ET
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not sure if he was 'worthy' to be his father..so he was such a bad  guy she could screw him?

ok off topic but I have to respond to this lol yes sometimes guys are ok to screw but not father material. lol

 

I have/had always said that (kind of, lol) about my brother.  He'd make a great Dad, but, he would be an awful husband!   :-X Only so much in the fact that he does what he wants, when he wants, etc.  I am 99+% sure having a wife wouldn't change that.  Well, the wife might try to change that.  ;-)  His current girlfriend keeps him on what I think is a pretty short leash . . . . I know it won't last forever, just don't see it happening.  No matter what either of them say to the contrary.  @@



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Date Posted: 6/18/2008 5:09 PM ET
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I hate the flip, wise-cracking heroine, found primarily in contemporaries.

Date Posted: 6/18/2008 6:34 PM ET
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I hate the stupid heronies who depend on the hero for everything! You know the ones I mean... they have no common sense and don't know how to do anything, so they just leave everything to the hero.

Date Posted: 6/18/2008 6:38 PM ET
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I vote for the whiner!  I don't like whiney ppl around me either!

I do like wise cracking heroines... it reminds me of my own sarcastic humor at times. I'll read something and think "Gosh I wish I'd said that"

Date Posted: 6/18/2008 7:08 PM ET
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I don't like the stupid, TSTL heroine. I also have little patience for the too-spunky heroine.

Date Posted: 6/18/2008 7:25 PM ET
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Ah the childbrides...this is more my anger at society in historical senses, they were packaged to be pretty airheads and then don't have a clue what to do, and yes our big strapping hero comes and teaches them all about the big bad night time activity, but then they're terribly insecure about *EVERYTHING* cause they're so *IGNORANT*.

I like fiery spirit just as much as I like a graceful steel, meaning that I don't mind a heroine who is defiant to the end and Challenging the hero, or a heroine who has the grace to preserve and wins over the man that way, but I can't stand weak females in novels. Perhaps because I don't see how an insecure immature whiner could satisfy another person or complete them and help them prosper in a marriage. Now that isn't to say that the woman should be flawless and never have a seed of worry in her mind...of course not we all have doubts and we all get insecure at times, but the lot of us don't run away crying and stopping the rest of our lives because we're not sure if *he* thinks our hair isn't the right color.

But again...I don't blame romance authors, I blame a society that has repressed female intelligence and value for the last 2000 years. *Sigh* which yes we are coming out of...only now we're losing the heroes...I think there should be *some* middle ground...and therfore I turn to Romance.

Date Posted: 6/18/2008 7:35 PM ET
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The ones who are "too tough", the whiners and the ones who have a man desperate to make a life with her and be a father to his OWN child and she can't suck it up and give in.

Sherri

Date Posted: 6/18/2008 7:45 PM ET
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The  most distasteful heroine are  the spineless types ( doormats who cries over everything, allows everyone to walk over them, etc).  Or the types who thinks all is forgiven when the hero says " I love you".... like thats some magic word and all is just forgiven without a hint of graveling.  Er, sorry... its not OK., even in a romance, what the heck am I saying, "ESPECIALLY" in a romance.   You see behavior's like this in most older romances. 



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Date Posted: 6/18/2008 7:58 PM ET
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I hate the martyr-  "oh, I'm not good enough for him, I must let him go." And of course the hero has no clue as to what has transpired (typical).

Date Posted: 6/18/2008 9:24 PM ET
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Oh I soooo agree with Rose...not only do I get this from romance novels, I have friends like this and it *DRIVES ME CRAZY*...especially cause the guys they're so hung up on are all louts.

Date Posted: 6/19/2008 7:23 AM ET
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Oh, my Gosh the martyr! I hate those too. For once I wish the hero would say "You're right, you're not good enough for me" and would run away with another woman.

 

 

Date Posted: 6/19/2008 11:33 AM ET
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I read one a few weeks ago where the heroine thought she wasn't good enough for the hero because her mother was an adultress. Is anyone truely that stupid? So of course, she ran away from him the whole book. I wanted to throw it against the wall.

Date Posted: 6/19/2008 1:40 PM ET
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Now I do make exceptions when like our heroine has been abused and doesn't think they're good enough, because well that's actually a psychological problem that they need to overcome and I think it's romantic when love heals someone who's been abused like that. It's not so much the martyr who's fishing for reassurances but like the broken one who gets fixed.

Date Posted: 6/19/2008 1:57 PM ET
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Oh, my Gosh the martyr! I hate those too. For once I wish the hero would say "You're right, you're not good enough for me" and would run away with another woman.

LOL!  that'd be good.  :)

Date Posted: 6/19/2008 2:09 PM ET
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Oh that is hilarious!  Can you imagine?  Makes me wish someone would actually put that in a book sometime:P

Date Posted: 6/19/2008 4:11 PM ET
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I think somebody who's been abused and has feelings of insecurity that causes them to wary of relationships is not a martyr. We're talking about the dopes here (like the one mentioned above) that think that any little flaw in their appearance/family/past is reason enough to run away from a guy.

I'm almost done with The Marriage Bed and the heroine hasn't improved at all - I really don't know what the hero sees in her. She still hasn't taken some part of the blame and the hero has spent the whole book fawning over her. I understand she's hurt - I just don't get a woman in her situation expecting her marriage to be a HEA (c'mon, she's a member of the aristocracy and we ALL know the expectations for women of the class.) I know this is a Romance and we're supposed to know she'll get it, but this harping about "Do you love me? Did you love any of the women you slept with? Do any of them fell in love with you? Poor Mistress falling in love with a man who didn't love them back!" etc. etc. is driving me up a wall. At this point I will only finish it up because I want to her her say, Yes, it was partly my fault!

Date Posted: 6/19/2008 7:22 PM ET
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Ooh, I can't stand the whiner, and the spineless heroine, or the heroine who can't listen when the hero tells her not to do something, but what does she do, yeah she does what she was told not to and then gets herself in trouble where the hero has to go rescue her all over again.  I'm reading a book right now, where the heroine was so mean, rude, nosey and basically uses the hero, but of course she is beautiful, so the hero falls in love with her anyway when she totally does not deserve him.  I think this annoys me, because I went to highschool with a girl like that, total *itch, but she was pretty so guys were in love with her no matter how badly she treated them (of course, now she is married with 3 kids and her husband is in jail, ah karma, sorry off subject).

Date Posted: 6/19/2008 8:09 PM ET
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"I'm reading a book right now, where the heroine was so mean, rude, nosey and basically uses the hero, but of course she is beautiful, so the hero falls in love with her anyway when she totally does not deserve him."

Well, I have to say Erika, you can't totally blame the woman in that scenario. If the guys would think with more than their 'little head', that would never happen.

Date Posted: 6/19/2008 9:07 PM ET
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I can't stand the ones who will sleep with the hero, have the best, hottest night of her life and then turn into a block of ice the next day.   Whiners always suck=)    Another one that I don't like has such low self esteem that the hero has to pratically brainwash her into believing he is really interested in her and finds her attractive.   He's there, trying to talk to you, understand you, complimenting you and most of the time cannot keep his hands off you and yet you still need reassurance because his last girlfriend was such a bombshell.   Is it really any wonder guys don't understand women:lol:

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