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Subject: Why are ARCs unpostable?
Date Posted: 11/3/2011 4:30 PM ET
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I was just wondering why ARCs are unpostable when they are just like other books except for the mark on them identifying them as such. Can I list one in the book bazaar as an ARC (it is wishlisted) and see if anyone wants it?

Date Posted: 11/3/2011 4:52 PM ET
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Yes, you can list ARCs in the Book Bazaar. I've done that before.

ARCs actually aren't just like any other book. They are unedited and not final copies. I've read ARCs with tons of grammar errors as well as ones that had character names and even endings change between the ARC and the final copy.

Date Posted: 11/3/2011 9:42 PM ET
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I inadvertently got an ARC from Bookcrossing that was missing all, yes all, the illustrations.  It was a book about architecture and interior design and was a terrible disappointment because the text even referred to photos that were supposed to be there.

Date Posted: 11/4/2011 8:17 AM ET
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Recently had a book offered to me through FIFO; I accepted it and then got a PM from the person saying it was an ARC in really good condition asking if I wanted it.. Kudos to the person for at least telling me it was an ARC and not just sending it.  I informed them that ARC's are not allowed to be posted FIFO but can be offered in the BB.  The person canceled the order like I asked.


Date Posted: 11/4/2011 10:14 AM ET
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Just this morning I was offered a book that I knew was not being published until January so I instantly knew it was an ARC -- fortunately the member contacted me to let me know and to make sure it was OK. Like Rob I let them know that it wasn't allowed here, even if they got it from another member, and they were apologetic and cancelled. The thing that got me was that the member had been here since 2007 and didn't know the basic posting guidelines. It is scary how many people are swapping here without ever learning the rules!

Date Posted: 11/5/2011 7:39 PM ET
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I believe the newish policy regarding ARC's using the thread on the Book Bazaar forum is that you may ask a credit for the book but as an ARC you cannot post it to someones wishlist.   You'd have get the requestor's mailing info and have them buddy you the credit for the book outside of using the normal posting direct to their wishlist.   I've got some great ARC's for books that I missed out on, got a really bad wl spot (I'm impatient) or just am jonesing to read. 

Date Posted: 11/9/2011 12:33 PM ET
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ARCs are a hit and miss lot.  Sometimes they are pretty much the same as the finished book, sometimes radically different.  And sometimes it depends on when the ARC is released how much it differs from the final version.  Since there is no way beforehand to tell how much the finished book will be different, PBS has a blanket no on ARCs. 

I've read ones with lots of grammar errors, but I think the biggest change I notice are for ARCs missing artwork/illustrations.  Never had one with a character or ending change... or at least I don't think I have.  I never have read the finished copies to find out!

Date Posted: 11/9/2011 10:35 PM ET
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I just got offered a wishlist book that isn't suppose to be released until December 6th, according to Amazon and PBS page. Doesn't that mean it's an ARC? Should I pm the sender and ask her?

Date Posted: 11/9/2011 11:07 PM ET
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It is possible that the book has been released early - but to be safe I'd PM the other member and ask about ARC markings to make sure.

Date Posted: 11/10/2011 2:41 PM ET
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Yeah, for something that close to the release date it could have just been released early.  Not to mention that sometimes the Amazon dates are not correct.  You can always check the publisher's website.  But better safe than sorry.  :)

Date Posted: 11/10/2011 2:44 PM ET
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Whats the title Connie? Maybe we can look it up.

Date Posted: 11/10/2011 3:12 PM ET
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Thanks everyone for your responses. This is the book - The Bishop: The Bowers Files (Patrick Bowers)
Author: Steven James
ISBN-13: 9780451235350
ISBN-10: 0451235355

The release date is December 6th. I did pm the sender and asked him if it was an ARC book. This is his response back .

No, I'm on the Penguin paperback release list and all are bookstore copies. I put them on Paperback Swap as opposed to others who put them up on Ebay for sale.

So, it looks like he receives books before they are released and just posts them here. Sounds fine to me as long as it's not an ARC and he said it's not.



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