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Topic: Why isn't There a Genre for Paranormal on PBS??

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Subject: Why isn't There a Genre for Paranormal on PBS??
Date Posted: 8/15/2008 8:10 AM ET
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What do you think?



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Date Posted: 8/15/2008 8:19 AM ET
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I wondered that too!  It would be great to be able to just chose paranormal on the homepage.

Date Posted: 8/15/2008 9:33 AM ET
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Paranormal falls under fantasy, futuristic, & ghost...under romance.

Date Posted: 8/15/2008 9:36 AM ET
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No!  No romance!  I don't like the romance, but I like paranormal.  CE Murphy, Laurell Hamilton, Mario Acevedo.  I don't call those romance.

Date Posted: 8/15/2008 10:11 AM ET
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If you put in fantasy (under the science fiction and fantasy option), you'll get quite a few paranormals in there as well.

Date Posted: 8/15/2008 11:47 AM ET
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I know what you mean about it being under so many genres.  I go to different book stores, and sometimes they have them under sci fi fantasy, sometimes under general fiction, sometimes under horror, and yes romance too.  I still remember the first time I went looking for Laurell K Hamilton at a bookstore and asked where when I couldn't find her and they said romance -- ROMANCE?!?!?  You're kidding??  nope -- paranormal romance section...

   I do wish it was easier to find, but there are lots of classifications it could go under.

Date Posted: 8/15/2008 1:22 PM ET
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Paranormal is so broad, it really should be it's own genre, with sub-genres under it...but it can get out of hand. I do reviews and for genre we have to be specific and there are sooo many sub genres to paranormal it's ridiculous lol It's a running "complaint" lol

Date Posted: 8/15/2008 2:44 PM ET
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no kidding.  the other day i was trying to find an urban fantasy/paranormal book at a store i don't usually shop at, and while their computer said it should be in sf&f, it turned out they'd actually shelved it in horror.  a *lot* of what was in their horror section was paranormal stuff i would have expected to find either in romance or sf&f.

Date Posted: 8/15/2008 6:56 PM ET
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I agree that paranormal falls under a lot of different genre labels - but so what? Why can't a book be listed under multiple genres? That's the thing that has always bothered me....



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Date Posted: 8/15/2008 7:09 PM ET
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Because it's tough to find.  I remember going into a BnN once looking for a Saintcrow, Jenna Black and P Briggs book....which I would say are all similar in genre.  One was in romance... Saintcrow...NO WAY is that romance, P Briggs was in Sci Fi...maybe, Jenna Black was in fanasty.  It can and should be crossed referred in different genres.  I can see why a Jenna Black book might also be listed in a romance section.  But seriously...how confusing is that this genre?   I would have put Saintcrow in Sci Fi before Briggs.  Half the time I think it depends on the publisher...just b/c Tor publishes Briggs books they go into Sci Fi.  Confusing.  You need a map to find these books....and also how do you then find new authors by browsing book stores when you never know where the paranormals will be!?



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Date Posted: 8/16/2008 9:55 PM ET
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I should clarify - when I stated why can't authors be listed under different genres, I was thinking this should be possible more so from a database point of view, than actually stacking the books in mulitple sections at a bookstore. Wouldn't it be helpful if you could look under "paranormal" on the store's computer (most seem to have them these days, even if only the employees can use them) and be told exactly where that book is located in their store? 

I do think where the books end up has to do with the publishers. But businesses can control their own in-store tools.

Date Posted: 8/16/2008 11:56 PM ET
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Not just the publisher, but the bookstores themselves!    ah well....  we will just have to continue the hunt. 

Date Posted: 8/17/2008 7:25 PM ET
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I agree totally. I've learned that various authors fall under various genres at yes, various bookstores and that includes here as well! :)  Once I know the store, I'm good to go but before then, I'm at a loss without asking the counter people where 20-30 authors are kept (and I feel like I'm a pain) or sweat it out myself looking under all the genres.

The drop down boxes here help very little when searching for a paranormal that could fall under several genres. It's hit and miss for me so if I'm searching in general for paranormal  I just use the search feature (type in the name of the book or author) and usually will not search someone's shelf with the drop down boxes.

The UBS I frequent has a paranormal section and a sci-fi section (along with everything else). A couple weeks ago they went through and cleared tons of books out of the sci-fi/fantasy section that were marked by the publisher as sci-fi/fantasy but most of "us" recognize them as paranormal (Rachel Caine, Carrie Vaugh. Patricia Briggs etc ...).  Once moved  to the paranormal section, they sold as quick as you could snap your fingers - I nabbed quite a few that I could never find in there because I took them literally at their word - if it was paranormal it would be in that one spot and not in sci-fi. lol

From now on the owner said she's keeping all the paranormals (with help from her paranormal readers) in a paranormal section and we won't have to hunt through all the various genres to find who we're looking for or just figure she doesn't have it and get it elsewhere.

When they get it all completed it's going to make my shopping much more concise!! I wish every place would start to do that since it's becoming such a popular genre. I mean,they do it with mystery - mystery has all sorts of subtypes and I can always find a mystery book regardlesss of what subtype I'm looking for under the "mystery" section!



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Date Posted: 8/18/2008 2:34 AM ET
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I think it would be handy.

Date Posted: 8/18/2008 3:28 PM ET
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Paranormal is classified under non-fiction and UFO standard in the Libary industry. We as readers dragged it out of there to Si- Fi and Horror back in the 60's. I like Si-Fi, but with a little or a lot of romance,  authors added it to their Romance books. It caught on so well that now Si-Fi / Fantasy has been dragged into the Contpemorary market. And what do we call all of this? Paranormal! If we are confused Publishers have no idea what to label it, but they are going to mass market it because we are going to buy it.

I started putting litle stickers on the spines of my books back in the 80's telling myself if the book was Time travel, Futristic, Ghost, ect. because my favorite authors were writing these. When I traded at my UBS she made a new shelf  just for me so I could look for what I wanted and shelf what I brought in. Now if I think someting belongs there I move it and they don't care because it sells better on "WOO-WOO" shelf.

At another store I trade at I suggested the same thing and they finnally did it a few years later. Now it's a whole celing to foor case and expanding. If I mention an author is now writing paranormal they move the books over hopping to sell past stuff like Briggs's Raven Duology aolng with the new Mercy series -all still classified as Si- Fi.



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