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Subject: Why can't I list this in the system?
Date Posted: 4/30/2015 6:10 PM ET
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http://www.walmart.com/ip/41266776  you can see the isbn : ISBN13 9781481446730. It doesn't show up here so what gives?

Date Posted: 4/30/2015 6:39 PM ET
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Date Posted: 4/30/2015 6:50 PM ET
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Thanks!

Date Posted: 4/30/2015 9:36 PM ET
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Since your book has an ISBN, there is no reason to post it as a book without an ISBN. When you go to the  Post Books page, enter the ISBN and the system should open a window up for you to enter all of the information for the book to list it under its actual ISBN.

Searching for a book by its ISBN will usually trigger to system to go looking for the book on the next database upgrade and add it to the listings too.

Date Posted: 4/30/2015 10:11 PM ET
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Thank you Melanie !

Date Posted: 5/1/2015 1:49 AM ET
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When a search by ISBN doesn't show up here, PBS will try to update its database to include the missing number. It you look again a few days after your initial search you might find it now listed here. Try that first, but if it doesn't show after a few days you may consider posting without an ISBN, or wait a little longer.

I went to the Walmart link in the OP (original post) and found the title and author for the book listed as "Dead of Winter" by Kresley Cole. I searched the net for the book by title and author, and found another ISBN also used for the book, 9781481423458. This number is in the PBS database and comes up when you search for it, but doesn't match the ISBN listed in the OP and cannot be used to list the book if the other ISBN is all that is printed on it.

Check for the ISBN on both the copyright page and on the back cover. Sometimes these have different numbers. If either of these matches the ISBN listed here, then I think it is ok to post.



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Date Posted: 5/1/2015 10:24 AM ET
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...if it doesn't show after a few days you may consider posting without an ISBN

Again, the book should not need to be listed as a book without an ISBN if it has an ISBN that isn't in the system, I see this recommended a lot. As long as the ISBN is not used by a different book, it doesn't matter if the book is listed in the system by other ISBNs, books can (and will) often be listed by multiple ISBNs. If someone uses the Post Books screen and enters the ISBN from their book, if it is a valid ISBN and not in the system PBS will open a window that allows the poster to set up the book under its own ISBN. That way it is properly set up and others looking for the book will find it correctly listed by its ISBN and the book doesn't get set up under multiple PBS short ISBNs when it has its own valid ISBN.

Date Posted: 5/1/2015 11:15 AM ET
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Yes, if the book has an ISBN and it's not in the system, there is no need to wait to add it. Or to post it without an ISBN.

Just post the book and the page opens up, and you hand enter all the information. It's very easy, just try to make sure you get all the info correct. Like spellings of names, etc.

I do that all the time, particularly for UK or Canadian or Australian editions of books where the ISBN is not in the US book databases. (I get these books from online distributors sometimes).



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Date Posted: 5/1/2015 10:51 PM ET
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... If someone uses the Post Books screen and enters the ISBN from their book, if it is a valid ISBN and not in the system PBS will open a window that allows the poster to set up the book under its own ISBN. ...
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... Yes, if the book has an ISBN and it's not in the system, there is no need to wait to add it. Or to post it without an ISBN. Just post the book and the page opens up, and you hand enter all the information. It's very easy, just try to make sure you get all the info correct. Like spellings of names, etc. ...

Is this a relatively new feature in PBS?  I am pretty sure I have tried listing books in the past that do not have ISBNs in the PBS database and PBS did not open a window allowing me to set up and list the books with an ISBN not already in the system. I haven't tried this in a while, so maybe it has changed. I agree that it is better to post books this way than without an ISBN.

 

 

Date Posted: 5/1/2015 11:42 PM ET
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It's been there since at least 2009 when I joined. It's not a Search feature, the blank page opens when you Post the book. 

Date Posted: 5/3/2015 1:32 PM ET
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That function has been there as long as I remember. It does have to be accessed from the Post Book window not from the search function as Sara mentioned. There have been times the window did not open up for me, PBS did not recognize the ISBN as valid for some reason that it doesn't tell you, it just doesn't open the window.

Date Posted: 5/3/2015 1:37 PM ET
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So this is for new books not in the system yet, right?

 I guess old books without a ISBN are posted differently.  

Date Posted: 5/3/2015 9:42 PM ET
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So this is for new books not in the system yet, right?

 I guess old books without a ISBN are posted differently.

Its for books with valid ISBNs not yet in the system - new or old. Books without ISBNs still need to be posted through the option to post books without ISBNs.