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Subject: Why are some member book reviews private?
Date Posted: 4/30/2012 6:21 PM ET
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Why write a review then keep it private?  Why not just skip the review altogether?

I think one member later became a paid reviewer so they put their old stuff here as private.  Lower quality?

Other thoughts?

Date Posted: 4/30/2012 7:32 PM ET
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I've often wondered that myself, but have never found an answer. Maybe someone will now. Pat

Date Posted: 4/30/2012 7:33 PM ET
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I think that those private reviews still show up on the books themselves don't they? But on profiles the option is there to set it to private to keep someone else from being able to stalk their reviews.  That's my guess anyway.

Date Posted: 4/30/2012 7:38 PM ET
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Stalk reviews.

Why would they do that? "Stalking" has a bad connotation. I would think that if someone was giving good, honest reviews, they would perfer people find their reviews to see their impression of book that were 'liked."

Date Posted: 4/30/2012 7:53 PM ET
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To make you ask that question. cheeky

 

I don't think that anyone needs to be able to see all the books I've reviewed.  I review books so someone considering a particular book will get a better idea whether they will like it.  Unless you're considering a particular book, you don't need to know what I read.

Date Posted: 4/30/2012 8:07 PM ET
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Stalk reviews.

Why would they do that? "Stalking" has a bad connotation. I would think that if someone was giving good, honest reviews, they would perfer people find their reviews to see their impression of book that were 'liked."

Oh Thomas, you don't understand the wrath of angry women do you. There has been occassion that people have went in and given members' reviews all thumbs down out of spite for forum spats. 



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Date Posted: 4/30/2012 8:16 PM ET
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Thanks, reminds me of a poem from one of my favorite authors.... The refrain is:

"For the female of the species is more deadly than the male."

Date Posted: 4/30/2012 9:39 PM ET
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What Melanie is what I was talking about. I think it's pretty rare but there have been members who have had their reviews stalked, have had people PM to harrass them about uneven sent/received ratios, post books to their WL just to get their address etc.., I think it's very rare here on this site but it has happened.  There are also people who have been stalked on the internet on other sites and so are very cautios now. This is why some members have their reviews, bookshelves, wish lists and such set to private. And why some people delete their forum posts on a regular basis.



Last Edited on: 4/30/12 9:40 PM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 5/1/2012 7:45 AM ET
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But if you fear being 'stalked', why review a book? Why participate in PBS at all?

have had people PM to harrass them about uneven sent/received ratios

I heard about this some time back, that is why I went private with my sent/received.  Though I never had an angry e-mail.  I think my sent is now public.

There are also people who have been stalked on the internet

I believe the forums went private because of this problem.  

Unless you're considering a particular book, you don't need to know what I read.

So it is perhaps about people judging you for the books you read, or atleast read and post?  On one hand, you want to be helpful so you write a review.  On the other hand, you don't want to be judged, or perhaps known for your reading tastes, so you make the review private.  At that point I would skip the review, I think.

They got rid of the public thumbs down tracking because of some members mean actions.  Feelings were hurt.

Date Posted: 5/1/2012 8:49 AM ET
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I believe the forums went private because of this problem. 

IIRC, all the forums were orignally private.

Then PBS opened them all up for Google search, which is when some people's discussions were discovered by others outside of PBS and followed here. Then those members were harassed.

After that, and some complaints that PBS had made a private forum public without notifying members, they closed some of the forums. But not all of them. Some are still public. Check the forum list, and if it doesn't say "Members Only" I wouldn't bet they're private.

So it is perhaps about people judging you for the books you read, or atleast read and post?  On one hand, you want to be helpful so you write a review.  On the other hand, you don't want to be judged, or perhaps known for your reading tastes, so you make the review private.  At that point I would skip the review, I think.

There's a difference between someone spotting a book they're interested in and looking at a review for information, and someone who's wanting to gather information on a poster for complaints or harassment.

If they're interested in the book, the review would be helpful. There's just no need to link them all to one person so that their whole reading list is exposed and up for discussion.

So keeping the review for the individual book, but making them private, to me is a good solution. If you don't care about the book, you wouldn't be there looking anyway.

And yes, I've seen people put down and harassed here for what was on their WL and their shelves. Not so often anymore, but in the past, yeah, it along with what ever other statistics people could find were used to put them down.

When the WL was unlimited, even the amount of book you had on your WL could get you angry comments. Saw that too.

 

Date Posted: 5/1/2012 8:51 AM ET
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"Ohhhh Nooooo  my day is ruined because someone put a no next to a review of mine."  "Oh the humanity, oh the shame."

WOW

Get Over it....Life Is Wayyyyy Tooooo Short, to waste time on crap like that!

-RD

Date Posted: 5/1/2012 9:25 AM ET
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Get Over it....Life Is Wayyyyy Tooooo Short, to waste time on crap like that!

Life is way too short to worry about how other people want you to use the site.

If it makes you feel comfortable, what ever your reasons, do the privacy thing. Tweak the site to what ever format makes you happy.

Then everyone else can do it their own way.

Date Posted: 5/1/2012 6:42 PM ET
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Well mines private because I dont write very good reveiws , its just to remind me that I already read it.

Date Posted: 5/2/2012 8:26 AM ET
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Life is way too short to worry about how other people want you to use the site.

Ouch.  Since I was the original poster I'll assume this is directed to me.  I'm not worried, I was curious.  That is how I like to use the forum Questions About PaperBackSwap.  To ask questions about PBS.  That is how I want to use the site.

Life is way to short to worry about why I would be curious.  wink

Date Posted: 5/2/2012 8:42 AM ET
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I use the reviews to find people of like tastes.  Many of the people I've met here on PBS (and at times 'friended') I knew from their reviews.  They tended to review the same books as me.  I guess my experience has been so positive I was wondering why others would keep their reviews private.

Date Posted: 5/2/2012 8:58 AM ET
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Everyone uses the site for different reasons. Some keep their bookshelves or their wishlist private; some have public profiles; some participate in the forums; and some just want to swap books. As with everything in life everyone has their own reasons for what they do so I'd say that applies to having all your book reviews private or public.

Date Posted: 5/2/2012 10:20 AM ET
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Ouch.  Since I was the original poster I'll assume this is directed to me.

No, actually, it wasn't.

I don't think anyone minds honest curiosity. I know I don't. But these issues have come up before, and it seems that every time people ask why other people use the site in a different way, no matter what their answer, someone else will come along in the discussion and tell people to 'just get over it' when it comes to having been burned, or choosing to keep some of their setting private because a public review makes them uncomfortable in some way.

I don't mind answering why I do some things the way I do. There's lots about the site people don't know about until someone else mentions it. (That's how I found out I could turn signatures off and not see them. Improved the site tremendously for me.)  I just don't think I need to defend my choices to anyone, nor change them to make someone else happy.

 

 



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Date Posted: 5/2/2012 5:41 PM ET
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I just don't think I need to defend my choices to anyone, nor change them to make someone else happy.

I know what you mean.  I was not seeking to be some kinf of Social Conformity Troll.  I try to sprinkle "IMO's" and "I thinks" and smiley faces through my comments to avoid this issue.  (i.e...  At that point I would skip the review, I think.)    

I've been using the forum near as long as you (since 2006) so I know better than to attempt to herd cats.  

Thanks for the feedback.  

 

 



Last Edited on: 5/2/12 5:41 PM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 5/12/2012 12:40 AM ET
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I don't have my profile or reviews set to private, but I was stalked here recently in the forums  and PMs by a personal acquaintance whose politics is opposite mine.  Seemed she joined, even used me as her referral source, just to go through 3 years of my forum postings so she could send nasty PMs or emails to my apple acct about what I posted here in discussions.  So, yeah, there are crazy people around.

Date Posted: 5/14/2012 12:24 PM ET
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Hum, Jeanne did you ever think that the ONE email that was sent to your Apple account was sent in error?  Your sister's and I were all emailing back and forth when I accidentally sent an email you.  Yep, purely an accident.  And actually there was nothing in that email except a quote you had made.  How is that nasty? 

Jeanne, do you think you could actually post the things you post here on a site such as Facebook were your friends are actually people who know you and know your history?  The answer is no.  Also the info you wrote about Kate and her inability to have a second child was just plain mean and spiteful.  You know your daughters have access to these posts. 

Also Jeanne, the world does not revolve around you.  I enjoy this site have immensely.  I greatly enjoy reading people’s book reviews and have discovered some wonderful new authors from other people’s recommendations.   I am here for the same reasons you are here.  This is an excellent website full of people from all different backgrounds that all love reading and books and I enjoy the information that is shared here. 

Maybe you are feeling uncomfortable because you are using these forums to speak ill of others?  That’s not very Christian of you.    Peace and Love to You.