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Subject: Why post a wish list book if you aren't going to respond? -UPDATE - Cancell
Date Posted: 3/25/2009 4:09 PM ET
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I don't get this. I have a wish list book that I've been waiting for -- for a few months. I finally made it to #1! Yay! I made sure it was on automatic request. So the book becomes available BUT I'm still waiting for the member to respond. It's close to 48 hours!

Why would someone post a book -- and a wishlist book at that -- and then not respond to the request?

And, I know if this times out I go back to the first in line, but in the meantime, isn't it possible that other requests for this book are being filled?

UPDATE -- PBS ended up cancelling the request, I gather. Or it timed out. Same thing? So I'm back in line at number 1. But now the question is -- why join and post if you don't want to send out books?



Last Edited on: 3/29/09 12:40 PM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 3/25/2009 4:13 PM ET
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Well, if it were me, I would tell you that I just posted books and the next morning my computer was attacked by a massive virus and I took it to the repair guys who are backed up and it was a week before I could get my computer back....

 

Yup, just happened to me last week. I feel horrible but unfortunately you cannot plan for the fact that some nimrod designs a virus that circumvents your anti-virus software.

Date Posted: 3/25/2009 4:14 PM ET
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Ann, I've had that happen a few times.  The only thing I can think of is that it's a new person who listed their entire library and were shocked at how quickly the books were requested.  Maybe they weren't prepared to spend $20 in postage?

Date Posted: 3/25/2009 4:15 PM ET
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Ann, a sender has 5 days to accept the request for a book and they may need to wait that long to accept for a variety of reasons...1) need to wait till payday to mail; 2) don't have daily computer access; 3) can't get to the post office due to being at work so, have to wait till it gets to a day they will be able to mail...etc etc.  Some of us are not always on the computer every day because we have many things going on...

And yes, while you are waiting on this book there could be other books being posted and people behind you getting them.

Date Posted: 3/25/2009 4:24 PM ET
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My guess would be they didn't realize it was a wishlist book.  My mom recently brought me a bunch of books to post and I was surprised by some of the ones that were wishlisted.  I understand your frustration though.  After waiting so long, you get your hopes up only to have the request sit there.

Date Posted: 3/25/2009 4:30 PM ET
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I don't reply until I am going to mail - usually the next morning, but it might be Monday if it were a weekend.  That said, I accept, print the label and walk down the hall to drop in the outgoing mail right then.  So it goes from waiting for acceptance to in the mail within 5 minutes.

Might be something like that - waiting to get to work, PO, etc.

Date Posted: 3/25/2009 4:57 PM ET
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Okay, I checked. Looks like a new member -- I hadn't thought of that -- thanks JM. 

It's still a little frustrating -- this has been on my wish list since June! I'm so close, yet so far......

And while I know that people have 5 days to respond, I thought WL books were different? Or is that just wishful thinking on my part?

Date Posted: 3/25/2009 5:01 PM ET
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I live in a very rural area. I have 25 miles to go before I hit a PO. I wait until I am certain I will be able to get to the PO when I say I will. Often, I wait to respond and then choose that latest possible date to ship by even if I think I can get to the PO much faster. Things come up. I would rather wait to respond and be certain I can get your book out than to respond and then have snow, tornado, illness etc. prevent me from making a 50 mile round trip thus causing you to not receive your book by the deadline.

Date Posted: 3/25/2009 5:04 PM ET
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I have had that happen to me several times. And twice, I waited the 5 days, they never responded, I was put back on the wish list and it took another month before the book was available again. And, I was on the computer when it hit my account so I immediately grabbed it. I am now on day two of one that the member has not responded to. Then I had 3 versions of one book wish listed, the first one was a smoker which I can't accept, took 4 days to decline, the second one was a smoiker, took 3 days to decline, I had already watiend two months, I finally just gave up because there were two books listed so I couldn't put those back on my wish list till someone too the smoky ones....Oh wellllllll.

Date Posted: 3/25/2009 5:11 PM ET
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The other thing to keep in mind is, the person may not have *just* posted the book when you get the notification. Sometimes I post a wishlisted book, and it cycles through 2 or 3 people (@48 hours each!) before someone accepts it. I may have checked the site every few hours after first posting those books and then had to go out of town or something...so when it gets to you, you accept and I might be gone for a couple of days. The sender does have 5 days to respond, not the limited 48 hours the wishlister does.

Cheryl

Date Posted: 3/25/2009 6:13 PM ET
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Cheryl - never thought of a WLd book cycling through like that.  I'd get one come up and immediately snap it up and then it would be days before they responded and I couldn't figue out how they could post it, I accepted it within an hour of it being posted and yet they took several days to acknowledge, but if they'd posted several days before, that would make sense.  I just have no patience.  LOL.  Pat

Date Posted: 3/25/2009 6:48 PM ET
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I feel your pain, and would like to add that the reverse is also an issue. Why would one wish list a book, only to let it sit and time out when it is offered to you!!!

I posted a book with eight wishers on the 19th and its still just sitting here!

Date Posted: 3/26/2009 12:22 PM ET
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Also, it could be a new member who only posted all their books to get the 2 free ones for joining. They may never intend to give away their coveted WL book. That seems to be more prevalent since PBS has shown up in news articles & on TV.



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Date Posted: 3/26/2009 12:41 PM ET
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I also like the point, which had never occurred to me, about the WL book cycling. I had always just gone on the idea that the minute I get that offer email from PBS, the person had right before, posted it into the system. Indeed, it could be coming from a long line of people who never responded, who clicked "I don't want this," who had RCs denied, etc. And indeed, that person may not have had contact with the book for days or even weeks beforehand.

Date Posted: 3/26/2009 12:45 PM ET
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I was going to say something similar to Spuddie.  Many times I have posted a bunch of WL books. I'll have a bunch of books to mail and then there is that 1 book that just will not be accepted.  It's just cycling through wishers.  So it could be that this person is holding off accepting because they just went to the PO and you are the 5th person this book has been offered too-so now they are waiting until they have the time again to go to the PO-or they are hoping another book order will come in and they can mail them both together. 

I've also sat on book orders, including WL books I"ve posted-because when a WL book goes on hold-I immediately check their WL to see if I have something else I can post to them.  I might hold off on accepting the 1st book to give me a few more reading days. Although I always PM the other person to make sure they have credits and still want the book.  I've been able to save a lot of postage $ that way and the 1st books has still gone through FIFO.

Date Posted: 3/26/2009 3:33 PM ET
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Much of what Mary said is true of me, too.  I've learned that it's nice to be able to send out more than one book in a package if possible.  Also consider that some senders like to give people some time to order more (like me).  And  I have to conserve printer ink as well. 

As for the books requests getting cycled - well, I've had to face the fact that not everyone is as attached (addicted?) to PBS as I am.  It just doesn't matter that much to some people.  Hard to understand - I know!

Ruth

Date Posted: 3/26/2009 3:37 PM ET
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The only time I wait to accept is if it's taking me longer to locate the book in question or if I want to wait and see if I get any more requests soon. They seem to come in groups for me and I like to save myself multiple trips to the PO.

Date Posted: 3/26/2009 9:05 PM ET
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I feel your pain, and would like to add that the reverse is also an issue. Why would one wish list a book, only to let it sit and time out when it is offered to you!!!

 

That's easily explainable.  In my case, it happened when I requested a different book from another member.  I check their bookshelf and found the WL title on there, so I ordered it from them.  It didn't occur to me that their version was different than my WL version.   Different publisher, I think.  Anyway, I got the book but forgot to remove the title from my wishlist until that version popped up as available. 

Also, I can see it happening when you put both hardback and paperback versions on your WL.  A person gets one but doesn't think to get remove the other from their list. 

Date Posted: 3/26/2009 9:27 PM ET
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It's supposed to ask you if you want other versions removed from your WL. But I've only been asked this maybe once so I try to remember to check my WL to get those other versions but I don't always remember.

Date Posted: 3/27/2009 12:24 AM ET
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I try to put a note on books that I've got multiple ISBN's requested to remind me to delete the others.

Ruth

Date Posted: 3/29/2009 12:41 PM ET
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Update in the original post --

UPDATE -- PBS ended up cancelling the request, I gather. Or it timed out. Same thing? So I'm back in line at number 1. But now the question is -- why join and post if you don't want to send out books?

Date Posted: 3/29/2009 12:54 PM ET
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I posted this already. A new member joins. (S)He only posts their 10 books to get the 2 free ones for joining & posting the required 10 books. They may never intend to give away their coveted WL book. They order their 2 freebies and leave, never intending to send out any of their own books.

Date Posted: 3/29/2009 1:04 PM ET
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I just cancelled 2 wish list books this morning. My purse got stolen with my last $60 in it. Until my next payday, I won't have any money for shipping at which time I will repost the books. Much as I love PBS, shipping books is not high enough on my priority list for me to borrow money from my parents in order to do it.

Date Posted: 3/29/2009 1:21 PM ET
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Bren -- sorry about your purse, that does suck. But that seems to be a (hopefully) rare case! And I'm willing to bet that you let the members know, right?

Eve, I saw your earlier post. I think you're right, and I think that's what happened here, and I figured the update would show the situation. Not that anything can really be done about it.

I'm not so naive that I expect life to be fair, but it's still frustrating, especially when I'm playing by the rules. However, onwards, and hoping another book comes in soon!