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Subject: why can't we see our positions in line for our posted books?
Date Posted: 10/27/2013 12:50 PM ET
Member Since: 11/27/2010
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i'm sure this has been discussed already, but not sure how to search it.

i don't understand why PBS does not allow us to see our position in the pile when we post a book ISBN on our bookshelf.  many books were very popular wqhen they were printed, and therefore many copies are circulating -- however, people may or may not still be ordering them.  it's a balance that may or may not be worth waiting for, as the number of available books of the same title becomes exponentially bigger, and the number of requests gets smaller.

i don't mind keeping books around if they will eventually be ordered (or of there is a chance of that) -- but when it is (or was) a popular book, there is no point of holding onto it if is one of 150 already posted, and members are only ordering 1 per month of that title. i have been told that PBS reaches for "the bottom of the pile" in sequence -- so they must know what every position is in line.  it would be nice for them to allow members to have access to this info.

i do realize there are sometimes multiple copipes of the same ISBN, which complicates the issue a but -- but still, usually only a few ISBNs are the majority.  i understand that you can put the titles on your "reminder list", where you can see how many copies are already posted --  but that doesn't tell you how often they move, or where your own position is in the line.

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Date Posted: 10/27/2013 2:05 PM ET
Member Since: 8/18/2005
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i don't understand why PBS does not allow us to see our position in the pile when we post a book ISBN on our bookshelf. 

I don't know that they've ever said for sure, but the results of past discussions seems to lean toward the idea that it's not shown because it would discourage people from posting books if their very far back in line. When distance in line really doesn't say how long it will take to have your book ordered. Some lines move faster than people think they will, and people would spend too much time fussing over how long it's taking their books to move.

 i have been told that PBS reaches for "the bottom of the pile" in sequence -- so they must know what every position is in line.

If you mean "First In, First Out" that's true. But people order from friends, come across bookshelves as they're browsing, and many have joined Box-o-Books. Those will go in and out as requested, not through the FIFO line.

If you don't mind keeping the books, then it wouldn't matter how long the FIFO takes. But if you're wanting to get them going, then offer a deal in the Bazaar. That'll get more people browing your shelves. Or do what I've done, if I feel a book has been sitting for longer than I want it around, I take it for trade-in at my local UBS and get something else.

I don't think letting people know their places in line is gonna happen soon, if ever. 

 

Date Posted: 10/27/2013 6:17 PM ET
Member Since: 9/25/2008
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There was just a discussion about this last week.http://www.paperbackswap.com/Look-See-What-Place-Line/topic/286135/

Date Posted: 10/27/2013 7:33 PM ET
Member Since: 9/22/2010
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I asked this question too, but long ago, and received pretty much the answer Cindy gave above.  Having said that, I've had books that, as I posted them to my Bookshelf and Reminder List, showed I was over 200th in line. Yet, in a few months that book was requested. I also have a large number of books that are #1 and have been #1 for a few years without being requested. Then there are books I expect no one to ever request and they are gone in a few days.  There are lots of different interests out there, so it is impossible to guess how long a book will stay on your Bookshelf just from its position in the queue.

Basically, what I do now when posting, is search out the book, add it to my Reminder List (usually five at a time) and then check that list. If I'm 150th or less, then I post it. If over 150, then I delete it from the Reminder List and either donate it to Haven Hospice Attic or sell it at a used books store. Usually it goes to Haven Hospice.



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Date Posted: 10/27/2013 8:32 PM ET
Member Since: 8/16/2007
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...i don't mind keeping books around if they will eventually be ordered (or of there is a chance of that) -- but when it is (or was) a popular book, there is no point of holding onto it if is one of 150 already posted, and members are only ordering 1 per month of that title.

You may have answered your own question. They've said before that they didn't have the system set up and they had thought about setting up a calculation, but didn't really think the information would be useful because it really isn't an indicator of how fast your book will be requested. People request from other members all the time, either through deals in the Book Bazaar or the Order More From Member button. This activity could mean that your book would get requested much quicker or much slower than the math would tell you if you were 150th with 1 book being requested per month. They may just not want to put information out their that they don't think will be useful.