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Subject: Why so snippy?
Date Posted: 10/2/2009 10:59 PM ET
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I don't come to this forum very often, but I just realized why.  It seems to be an attitude, not everyone of course, but enough that it makes me not really even want to look around at what is being discussed.  I have noticed that some people are REALLY snippy on some of the threads about who is and is not a chick lit author, and what is and isn't a chick lit book.  Why?  Is this some sort of closed club? I just don't understand the attitude, but I am starting to understand the lack of participation on this forum as opposed to some of the others.

Just curious.

Date Posted: 10/2/2009 11:01 PM ET
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i don't think it's being snippy, it's just that chick lit is a distinct genre.  many people are confused about what chick lit is and keep offering romance titles and authors who are not chick lit.

it's just very frustrating because people seem to think that just b/c it's a woman author, it must be chick lit.

Date Posted: 10/2/2009 11:07 PM ET
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huh, ok, maybe its just me.  But as I was looking around and reading different topics, all I could think was jeeze whats with the attitude.  I'm always looking for different books, I read all genres, depending on my mood.  So it is fun to see what others are reading and suggesting.  Never really seen this in the other "genre" forums.

Date Posted: 10/2/2009 11:26 PM ET
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i think with the other genres it's easier to tell what genre a book is in. like almost everyone knows what is considered a mystery or a romance. whereas chick lit, many people are unsure of, so when they post stuff like a Nora Roberts book, we have to let them know, this is the wrong place for that.


besides, chick lit characters are known to be sassy in their speech :P

Date Posted: 10/3/2009 12:03 AM ET
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it's just very frustrating because people seem to think that just b/c it's a woman author, it must be chick lit.


This is exactly how I feel....its frustrating for someone to post "2 for 1 on my shelf -- chick lit" and to scroll through all of the books and for it to be all romance and Nora Roberts. I don't like romance.

And I think most of the people on this board read different genres. I personally read memoirs, historical fiction, history (non-fiction)/biography, and contemporary fiction. And lately I've "discovered" James Patterson and gotten into some cozy series. I know others read YA, paranormal, and the other genres I already mentioned.

And I don't think there is anything wrong with letting someone know that they are posting in the wrong forum if they are trying to get rid of Harlequin books. I don't think that they would have many takers from this board. They wouldn't post those in the True Crime (just an example) board, so why should they be posted here? It's already difficult enough wading through the Book Bazaar. I don't think anyone wants the genre boards to be "anything goes" so far as "pimping" one's shelf.

Sorry if I (or anyone) has come across as "snippy" but the line really is clear to those of us who read chick lit regularly!

Date Posted: 10/3/2009 1:35 AM ET
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I wouldn't be surprised if you find some of my posts here 'snippy.' So be it. I am sorry, but we get sick of the same people offering the same NOT chick lit books. Plus, there is a red sticky for deals. It's frustrating having to wade through the junk especially when there are topics that clearly outline what chick lit is. Maeve Binchy and Nora Roberts ain't it just because they are women. Women authors do not equal chick lit.

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Date Posted: 10/3/2009 9:54 AM ET
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Date Posted: 10/3/2009 12:28 PM ET
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I c hecked out one thread the other day and someone there sounded down-right rude. and some books/authors do seem to cross genres..at least to me they do. this isn't my main genre so I only come here every so often to see what's new that I can't go without reading.

Date Posted: 10/3/2009 12:50 PM ET
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I also think it depends on what author is being offered and where it's being offered. if someone says they have chick lit on their shelves but there is nothing but romances and harlqeuins and nora roberts, that is wrong and misleading. if someone is offering in the WL thread a book that is written in a chick lit style that is fine. i think, as everyone has said, it is when the book is obviously not chick lit, not WLed and the person is just trying to pimp their shelves without even knowing the genre.

the least you could do is check first what chick lit is, we don't mind when people ask. honestly.

Date Posted: 10/3/2009 2:13 PM ET
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I agree that some posts do come across as abrubt. In a many of the cases, though, it's because the same question/issue comes up 5 times per week despite the stickies and the previous threads. The reaction may seem overly harsh to the person who makes an honest mistake, but please understand that it can feel like we're just banging our heads against a wall to have to explain over and over and over and over again that just because the author has XX chromosomes does not make it chick lit. Sore heads make boardies a bit curt. It also gets very irritating to have to wade through tons of deal threads that weren't posted in the stickie as board courtesy demands in order to find the actual discussion posts and the standing posts such as the WL thread.

Often the WL thread posts will contain chick lit books as well as a few WL books in others genres. As long as the post is relevent in that it does feature chick lit books, many--if not most--of us don't object. The what are you reading threads contain feedback on tons of chick lit books, but we are a diverse group and sometimes we read--and mention-- books that are not chick lit. For instance, in addition to the latest chick lit book I'm reading, I mentioned that I'm currently listening to a Charlaine Harris audiobook (not chick lit). The posts that tend to cause fangs to show are the Book Bazaar-type 'look at my shelf' posts and the posts that are completely off topic.

Date Posted: 10/3/2009 2:29 PM ET
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There have also been a few time when people who were clearly pimping their shelves and got nice responses urging them to go to the love and romance forum came back really aggro and snotty like, "I *know* I don't have chick lit, but I'm going to continue to say I do, and I am going to say that any woman writer is chick lit, so there." I remember someone saying she had privately emailed someone who had posted that she had a ton of chick lit on her shelf (when it was all like Jackie Collins and stuff). She got a rude email back that said "I don't care what you say, 'chick lit' is books written by women authors, so you can screw yourself, I'm going to continue to say what I want." So, it kinda goes both ways. Sometimes it's more of a sour grapes thing.

Date Posted: 10/3/2009 4:23 PM ET
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I think its appropriate for the regulars in this forum to get on to people knowingly posting romance books, (or anything non chick lit for that matter) on this forum because there are people like myself who could mistakenly order and use up credits for these non-chick lit books only to be disappointed when a bodice-ripping romance book arrives in the mail.  As I get through the more common chick lit authors and start expanding more into unknown chick lit authors, I am happy there is some guidance in this forum so I dont end up with something I don't enjoy and I would expect other chick lit newbies to feel the same. 

Date Posted: 10/3/2009 9:06 PM ET
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