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Subject: why is it on your WL if your going to decline?
Date Posted: 2/23/2010 2:24 PM ET
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I like to make wished come true so I look to post WL books.  I have posted 4 in the last few weeks and had them declined.  I don't understand this.  If you don't want it anymore Please take it off your WL.  So crazy people like me don't get excited and disappointed in the same day.

Date Posted: 2/23/2010 2:33 PM ET
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I've had to decline a WL book because I already received a copy, and had forgotten to remove a different version from my WL. It happens.

I'd rather people decline the book than have the book go the full 48 hours and then roll over to another member, and then another, and then another.



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Date Posted: 2/23/2010 2:41 PM ET
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When I was new, I had more WL books than credits. It's also easy to add multiple versions and forget to remove one after obtaining the book. And It's even easier to forget to remove it if you obtain it elsewhere.

I agree with whippoorwill though, I'd rather receive a declination than roll over numerous times.

Date Posted: 2/23/2010 2:51 PM ET
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You know, I"ve declined a WL book a couple of times (not often, as it normally makes me realize I need to revamp my WL)...but the reasoning is because when I look at the title and/or the description, I don't recognize the book and/or don't like the description any longer.  Tastes change.  But, like I said, it also motivates me to go back through my WL at the next opportunity to make sure that what is actually on there are books that I still want.

Date Posted: 2/23/2010 3:02 PM ET
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I have about 100 books on my wish list and 2 credits. I can't imagine ever having enough credits to get all the books I want. If I decide I want to pass on a wish list book offered to me, I would decline it immediately so it could move to the next person waiting in line.

Date Posted: 2/23/2010 3:18 PM ET
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but the reasoning is because when I look at the title and/or the description, I don't recognize the book and/or don't like the description any longer.  Tastes change.

Same here. That's one reason I've declined before.

Another is not having enough credits like others mentioned. Now it happens less often with the hold option. Although sometimes I don't anticipate a book moving so fast and get it offered before I'm ready or before I can put the book on hold.

It happens, just be glad they are declining instead of letting it time out. Last month I posted a book that went through all 7 wishers until the very last person said they wanted it. Only 1 of the other 6 people declined before it timed out.



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Date Posted: 2/23/2010 3:57 PM ET
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There are many reasons for this.  The first being they don't have the credits at the time the book becomes available and the second could be that they already got the book from another source.  I go over my wish list on a weekly basis to make sure I no longer have books on the list I don't want.  But, like another poster said, I would rather a wish list book I posted be immediately declined than for it to go through 3-4 48 hour holds. 

Date Posted: 2/23/2010 5:15 PM ET
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As others have said lack of credits is one reason people decline; another is that they already have the book and forgot to take additional copies off their WL. 

When I put a book on the WL I usually don't care if it's PB or HC .  I just want to read the book, so I'll put every version I can find on my WL, and usually don't take any off until I receive a copy of the book.  Therefore, if when I post I'm #1 for all copies posted it's possible that I'll have a copy enroute to me and another version will come up.  At that time I'll cancel that one. I don't usually cancel until I have a copy in my hand because I've done that in the past and the book that was sent has gone lost.  I do check my WL every time I receive a WLd book to make sure there aren't any other versions still on my list.

Pat

Date Posted: 2/23/2010 5:49 PM ET
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I'll confess to being another one who forgets to remove other editions.  A couple of times I've been asked when I've marked a book received if I want PBS to delete the other editions-but usually it doesn't ask.  I'm also not partial to binding and will usually WL every version.  And I don't really go through my WL that often.  I don't keep track of line position as I'm ok with just getting them when I get them.  So far I've caught most of the books that I got elsewhere or a dif version before I got offered them again.
 

I have to say that I have only had to decline 2 WL offers.  1 for a book that I have no idea how it came to be on my WL but it wasn't a book I would ever want.  And another time because I had RWP'd a book and they put it back on my WL. But book was clearly not repostable but still readable so I declined the WL offer so it could go to someone else. 

I find when people decline they do it pretty quickly.  I'd rather have that than multiple time outs.

Date Posted: 2/23/2010 6:30 PM ET
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But now with the individual wishlist hold feature, many of those old excuses just don't hold water anymore. if you are low on credits you can just put the books you're close to the front of the line for on hold until you have more credits and you won't lose your place, nor will you waste the person's time who posted the book by delaying to respond while waiting for a credit to come in.

And if you are offered a book that you have 2 or 3 or more versions of on the WL, put the other versions of the book on hold til you get the one that was offered, then you can remove those alternates; even if you forget to take it off the wishlist when you get it, at least it's on hold so you aren't offered a book you no longer need and the posted book can be offered to someone who really is interested in it.

Cheryl

Date Posted: 2/23/2010 8:19 PM ET
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I declined a WL book yesterday.  I read the description again and I can't figure out why I put it on there to begin with.  Plus, I'm getting low on credits and it just didn't sound good enough to spend one on right now.

Date Posted: 2/23/2010 8:32 PM ET
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Sometimes I'm just too low on credits, it's nothing personal. If the book is heavily wishlisted it shouldn't make much of a difference, except it might take a little longer.

Date Posted: 2/23/2010 8:47 PM ET
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Ditto the credits.  I was running on empty and I didn't want the book enough to actually purchase a credit. 

Don't take it personally.

Date Posted: 2/23/2010 9:14 PM ET
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Sarah ,

That same thing happened to me the other day.

Date Posted: 2/23/2010 10:59 PM ET
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MY Sitchi-----i bought one and forgot to take it off, so I declined (blush).  But in my defence, it was very soon after it was offered to me. 

Date Posted: 2/24/2010 1:36 AM ET
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I had a book that was on a wishlist from the day I joined (two months ago), and I JUST sent it last week. Luckily there was a long wishlist, so atleast I did get it out.

Date Posted: 2/24/2010 3:32 AM ET
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huh?

Date Posted: 2/24/2010 7:36 AM ET
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Okay, question for those who say the book request came up and then you realized you didn't really want the book anymore or you couldn't remember why you wishlisted it to begin with when you read the description....seriously??? I mean, it looks like most of you that are using that excuse are very active here on the PBS forums, so you're here at PBS all the time...so you're saying that you can't take five minutes a week to quickly browse through your wishlist to remove things you no longer want or don't remember why you put it there in the first place??

I mean, I get it that life can get busy and not everyone checks into PBS every day, so even if you missed the PBS email saying you have a book from your wishlist posted and waiting for your acceptance, I can understand missing one of those occasionally. But if you're here all the time anyway, why would you NOT want to keep your wishlist up to date with books that you really want? I check mine at least a couple times a week and am constantly deleting and adding...but everything there, I know I want and have it on autorequest. It only takes a few moments to do, even if you have a full wishlist.

Cheryl

Date Posted: 2/24/2010 7:50 AM ET
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I've only declined a WL book once, and that was for lack of credits.

Date Posted: 2/24/2010 7:52 AM ET
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I'm one of those people that will add a book to a WL and then totally forget it was there because I don't visit my WL that often. If I put a book on there 6 months ago and I got the email today, I would most likely scratch my head and wonder why I put the book on there in the first place, because reading tastes change. Another reason I've declined a book is because I was running low on credits and again, I couldn't remember why I put the book on there in the first place. What this boils down to is that PBS gave us the option to declilne a WL book so its ok to do so.

Date Posted: 2/24/2010 9:25 AM ET
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I think everybody has their own way of interacting with the site. So maybe a person that spends a lot of time on forums doesn't feel like updating her WL on a regular basis. As long as they don't break PBS rules, however they manage their account is up to them.

That said, I review my WL a few times a week and remove books I get from other sources promptly. Since the WL hold feature came into effect, I haven't declined one book. But I used to before. Before the WL hold, my acccount was on vacation hold 95% of the time because I like to control the # of books I receive but in the few moments when I had to unhold my account to post a book, I would get several offers and I almost never had enough credits to accept them all. So that meant I had to decline a few but I always did it promptly so it would move on to the next person.

Date Posted: 2/24/2010 9:39 AM ET
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D. G. wrote:  I think everybody has their own way of interacting with the site. So maybe a person that spends a lot of time on forums doesn't feel like updating her WL on a regular basis. As long as they don't break PBS rules, however they manage their account is up to them.

Oh, I do agree...live and let live and all that. People who decline a lot of wishlist books aren't technically breaking any rules. PBS does say that (quoted from help docs) :   

your Wish List is the list for all books that are currently unavailable to order in the system, that you want to request when they become available.  (Books that you are only considering requesting in the future should go on your Reminder List.)

But really, what it boils down to is not wanting to bother with keeping their wishlist updated. If that's the case, just say "I can't be bothered to update my wishlist" instead of making excuses about it.. Yes, reading tastes change--so why would you NOT want to be sure your wishlist reflects the changes??

Ah well, whatever. It's an old argument. I used to be more cognizant of which books on my TBR were wishlisted and would be trying to read those first so that I could make someone else happy...but repeated declines, cancels, cycling through multiple members to get someone who actually wanted the book...or sometimes, having it end up on my shelf because no one who had it wishlisted apparently really wanted it...well, let's just say I don't bother worrying about whether a book is wishlisted anymore.

And I agree, too--the individual WL hold feature is AWESOME and great for so many situations. I have five books on my WL on hold right now, waiting for an order from Bookcloseouts to come in. As soon as they're in my hot little hands, I'll detete them totally.

Cheryl

Date Posted: 2/24/2010 9:55 AM ET
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I've never turned one down because I just didn't want it anymore. But really is it better to accept and have someone send you a book you don't really want anymore-and make the next person in line wait longer?  I think it's better to decline it so someone who really wants the book can have it.

I did decline one that I don't remember adding to my WL.  It was by an author I have never liked. I'm wondering if I accidentally hit Wish when looking for a dummy book to post for the Mail To Friend Option. 

I don't like the out/low on credits excuse either.  Put your WL on hold if you are low or out of credits.  That option is available now.  I could see it as an excuse before when putting your WL on hold meant also putting your shelf on hold thereby preventing any shelf orders.  But still even then-read and post some WL books to earn some credits. 

I'm just not obsessive about my WL-I don't feel the need to keep track of my position in line.  I don't see the point-if I'm not #1 than I don't see what tracking it accomplishes-it doesn't make me move up the line faster.   But I do try to look every so often to see if there's stuff on there I need to remove. But sometimes I forget.

Date Posted: 2/24/2010 11:20 AM ET
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But really, what it boils down to is not wanting to bother with keeping their wishlist updated. If that's the case, just say "I can't be bothered to update my wishlist" instead of making excuses about it.. Yes, reading tastes change--so why would you NOT want to be sure your wishlist reflects the changes??

Like I said in my first post, this doesn't happen much anymore since the new individual hold options, but sometimes the WL moves faster than I anticipated (and I check my WL a few times a week). What if I get offered a book that I was #10 in line with no copies posted in 6 months and then bam! I'm #1? If I'd seen that I was moving up I could have re-evaluated my desire to read it and either put it on hold or leave it to be offered to me soon.

I actually accepted a WL offer a few weeks ago even though I wasn't sure if I really wanted to read the book at the time. I figured I had 4 credits, though, so I would still have enough for any other wishes that were ones I really wanted and had on Auto-Request. Then, luckily maybe, the sender said they couldn't send it. So I went back to #1 but I put it on hold. I'm actually glad it worked this way because it's not one of those books I'm just dying to read at this time.

I put books I might not be sure of at this time on my WL because I don't want to suddenly decide I want to read it just to have to start at #88 when I could have been working my way up the line the whole time I was unsure and it was on my RL. That's why sometimes, I might still decline.

Date Posted: 2/24/2010 11:31 AM ET
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I don't check my WL that often even though I'm on PBS every day.  I will go there and hold something or turn auto request off if I'm getting the book from another source right away.  I'm not so good at remembering to go back and delete those books entirely though when I have them in hand.

I still have lots of room on my WL so I don't need to constantly keep up with it to have space to add more books.  If I were at or near the 200 mark, I'd probably be more inclined to keep a closer eye on it.

Any book I'm not really sure I want I don't put on auto-request.  I figure I'll decide on the book if and when it's offered to me.  No harm in that since, if I don't want it, I'll turn it down pretty quickly so it'll roll over to the next person.

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