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Subject: Wishlist book posted in different format
Date Posted: 9/10/2008 5:03 PM ET
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It would be nice if the paperback swap people could address what I believe to be a common problem.  Last week I posted a book that was on several people's wishlists - my book was hard back and the book on people's wishlist was the paperback version.  This week I have posted a paperback book that is on six people's wishlist, but they must have wishlisted the hardback version.  Now I do realize that sometimes people really DO prefer a hardback vs a paperback, or the other way around.  And I do realize that there is an option you can select that says something like -" let me know if other versions are posted".  I wasn't aware of that option when I put some of my books on my wishlist, so I can assume that other members may also be in the dark about that.  IMHO it would be a great courtesy if Paperbackswap would send out a friendly email to people when ANY VERSION of their wishlisted book is posted.  I truly believe that more books would get swapped this way.  Just my thoughts.

Date Posted: 9/10/2008 5:04 PM ET
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This feature already exists.

Subject: I guess Linking is the issue
Date Posted: 9/10/2008 5:12 PM ET
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Yes, after looking through the help section, I see that this feature already exists.  However I do believe there may be a problem with the "linking" of the ISBN's.  So, I guess I should have addressed the linking, instead of suggesting sending emails - which already happens if the books are  LINKED properly..   Maybe the paperbackswap people could look into the linking problem?? 

Date Posted: 9/10/2008 5:13 PM ET
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as Jessica says, it does exist but it is possible that people have turned it off because they are requesting the binding they want and don't want anything else.

you could also put a tag on the WL version saying something like "pb available under ISBN XXXX" or whatever

Date Posted: 9/10/2008 5:15 PM ET
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what do you mean linking?  I'm confused (and some days it doesn't take much!)

when you click on the author do you see all of the versions listed?  If so, then they should be "linked".  If not, then something needs to be fixed like the spelling of the author's name or title.

Date Posted: 9/10/2008 5:17 PM ET
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This is from the Help Docs:

"Linked" ISBNs (other versions/binding types of the same title) will trigger alerts also, when they become available in the club.

  • However, these will NOT be exclusive offers; "similar items" will be offered simultaneously to everyone on the Wish List for any version of that title, on a first-come, first-serve basis.
Date Posted: 9/10/2008 5:27 PM ET
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I posted a copy of Pillars of the Earth last week.  There were 500 people wishing for a similar version and none for the one I posted.   I posted on the Book Bazaar with the title as the subject and someone grabbed it right away.   I wish PBS would give us the ability to contact the person who was #1 on the FIFO wish list.  It would have really been nice for me to send to that person.

Date Posted: 9/10/2008 5:52 PM ET
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so why do you think that the books you posted aren't linked to the WL version?  Is it because no one has ordered it?  That may be because they don't want the binding you have to offer.  Or they have turned off that feature and don't receive the emails.

Date Posted: 9/10/2008 6:22 PM ET
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I agree 100% Phyllis!  Maybe that will be a change in the near future.  In the mean time, I will try the Book Bazaar idea!

Date Posted: 9/10/2008 6:33 PM ET
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Also if you post an older or book club edition of the book, that doesn't have an ISBN and therefore has to be posted manually, the email about an alternate version isn't triggered.

Date Posted: 9/10/2008 6:45 PM ET
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Perhaps you have never received a "Similar to wish" email. I get those (because I have not turned off that email option) when a book that is the same as another book on my wishlist but with different binding or different print run gets posted. I accept them frequently.

I think a lot of people turn those emails off as they are not aware of what they actually are.



Last Edited on: 9/10/08 6:46 PM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 9/10/2008 6:46 PM ET
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<<which already happens if the books are  LINKED properly>>

If, by "linking properly", you mean that the book doesn't show all editions available, or the author's list of works is incomplete, this is often due to either non-ISBN copies being posted (which the system treats differently) or book information being incorrect (misspelling or different form of the author's name, for example).

When book info is wrong, it falls to PBS members to help get it corrected.  Any member can edit book information, or PM any member of the Data Editing Team for help in doing so.  We're just volunteers.  We try hard, but we can't do it all.

Many folks adopt a favorite author or series, and work to ensure all the titles by that author or in that series are correct.

I realize I may have gone somewhat beyond the scope of your query, but perhaps this is helpful.  There is no team of "paid PBS people" editing book data -- that's done almost exclusively by member volunteers :-)

Cheers,

Catt

Date Posted: 9/10/2008 7:51 PM ET
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  I wish PBS would give us the ability to contact the person who was #1 on the FIFO wish list. - Oh, I hope they never allow this. I know in some instances it would be helpful, but I think most of the time, the WLed version is the one wanted. I shut off the notification emails because I'd get 10+ a day on some of the Sue Grafton because the paperback was so prevelent, but I only wanted the HC.  If members could get contact information on the first person in a WL line, think of all the wrong ways that info could be used.

Date Posted: 9/10/2008 8:26 PM ET
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I shut that "other versions" feature off for a while, because one of my wishlisted items was audio, and I only wanted audio, and was getting tons of emails offering other versions of that book.  I would gladly have accepted any version of the other 199 books.  I posted about it on here asking for suggestions and some smart person (sorry, I've forgotten who or I'd give credit) suggested that I create a rule in outlook to ditch "other version" emails that included the name of the book I only wanted in audio.  I turned the feature back on, created the rule, and it worked very well.  It would be lovely if PBS could make that feature book specific, that is, you could turn it off on any book, but I know they have tons to do, and that might be a real programming pain.  Just a thought for those of you who have turned the feature off.

Date Posted: 9/10/2008 8:42 PM ET
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<<It would be lovely if PBS could make that feature book specific, that is, you could turn it off on any book, but I know they have tons to do, and that might be a real programming pain.>>

But they do try to include member requests when they can -- why not write and at least ask, so their programmers can consider it? :-)

Cheers,

Catt

Date Posted: 9/11/2008 8:15 AM ET
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The binding was the same on the edition of "THE PILLARS OF THE EARTH" that I posted as the binding on the edition that had 500+ wishers.  The only difference was mine was the "deluxe edition with a forward by the author".   I'm sure the people wishing it would have taken the copy I posted.  The only "contact" info that I would request would be the ability to "PM" the person who was #1 on the wish list.  I don't see how that feature would subject the wisher to abuse.

Date Posted: 9/11/2008 8:44 AM ET
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That's because you are a nice person. Lots of folks would use it to bribe or intimidate their way to the front of the list...because I don't see how they could only make it available to folks posting different isbns of the same book.

Date Posted: 9/11/2008 10:00 AM ET
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Regarding "linking": At the bottom of the book description page is an area where "other versions of this book" may be listed. I have noticed that not all versions list all the other versions. For example, on one book it listed other versions as "paperback, paperback, hardback". When I clicked on one of the paperbacks and went to the bottom of THAT page there was only one "paperback" listed as other versions.

Just now I tried looking up Tom Sawyer. The first book I randomly chose to check had NO other versions listed (I couldn't believe that was true.) The next book listed 8 different versions. So maybe if someone listed the first "unlinked" book, it wouldn't trigger "similar book" emails to someone who may have had one of the other versions wishlisted?

Date Posted: 9/11/2008 11:46 AM ET
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I wish we could see who was #1 in line. I realize it'd probably lead to lots of PMs they don't want, but I'd love to be able to check the WLs for some of the heavier books I have. I don't want to mail them one by one but if I happened to have several on one WL that'd be different.  Maybe just the ability to see the WL without seeing who?  Then I could post the first one, wait until they accept and post the rest.

Date Posted: 9/11/2008 5:06 PM ET
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I have the other versions email turned off. I like murder mysteries on CD.  I like them when I'm walking. I had several James Patterson and Sue Grafton audios on my WL. I was gettting 20emails again. 

I would just tag the WL book w/the ISBN# of the one that is posted. I would check first to see if my version is available on PBS already.  If there's already several copies of the ISBN you have then I wouldn't bother.  If your's is the only copy or there's just a couple try tagging the WL book. I had a mmp that had a long line for another ISBN. I'm not even sure why the ISBN was different as the cover, page number and binding were all the same.  There was another copy of my version posted.  I tagged the WL one and within a short time mine was ordered.  So I'm guessing the other person's copy was also ordered.  There was a WL line very quickly for the ISBN I had.

Date Posted: 9/11/2008 5:14 PM ET
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I just checked my WL. Will someone advise me where I can find "other version e-mail" option? I don't care if the books on my WL are PB, HC, library binding, large print. or other as sometimes indicated. I just want to read the book! Thank you.



Last Edited on: 9/11/08 5:15 PM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 9/11/2008 5:25 PM ET
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Margaretann - You go into My Account ->Settings ->e-mail. There you check the ones you don't want and uncheck the ones you do.

Date Posted: 9/11/2008 8:49 PM ET
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i currently receive the "other versions" email b/c for 95% of my books i dont care what the binding is. and ive gotten some really good books this way. however, im really getting tired of seeing the emails about the harry potter books. but thats something ill have to live with until i finally get the HB im looking for

Date Posted: 9/13/2008 8:39 PM ET
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Thank you, Melanie.    M'ann

Date Posted: 9/17/2008 6:28 AM ET
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I really like being able to get the "other version" emails. Sometimes I accept them, sometimes I don't, but it's always nice to have the option. All my WL books are paperback, unless the only version that's been published is hardcover. But sometimes a different paperback version is posted, and I wouldn't have known without getting the PBS email. Or a hardcover is posted and I want the book enough that I'm willing to accept the format that I don't like as well.

so why do you think that the books you posted aren't linked to the WL version?  Is it because no one has ordered it?  That may be because they don't want the binding you have to offer.  Or they have turned off that feature and don't receive the emails.

If there isn't a link to it at the bottom of the book page (where it says "Other Versions:"), then the two versions probably aren't linked. (I can't say for sure because I haven't explored it very much... but I do know that a lot of books don't show any other versions available at the bottom of the page, when there are clearly other versions posted.)

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