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Subject: wishlist book received that did not meet rc do i mark as a problem?
Date Posted: 1/11/2014 1:56 PM ET
Member Since: 8/15/2005
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I recieved a wishlist book today that did not meet my rc. I have 2 rc on my requests.

If it is a hardcover that originally had a dust jacket I would like it with the dust jacket. this is a must especially for children's books as I usually order them as gifts. ex-library books are fine as long as there are no loose pages and the binding is tight.

I got this book this morning that was a hardcover children's book that was meant as a gift for a friend's daughter. there is no dust jacket. I can only assume that the member ignored my rc. I didn't get a pm asking if i was willing to accept this wishlist book without the dust jacket. So what would you do? do i mark it as a problem?



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Date Posted: 1/11/2014 2:38 PM ET
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Yes, mark it received with a problem RC not met. You have the option of asking for your credit back (or not).

Laura M. (LMM) - ,
Date Posted: 1/11/2014 2:39 PM ET
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Are you positive it came with a dust jacket?  If the person recieved it without a dust jacket, how are they to know if there was one originally?

Date Posted: 1/11/2014 2:43 PM ET
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A lot of Hard cover children's books are issued without Dust Jackets. Are you certain it's supposed to have one? Another thing to think about is the wording of your RC. It says "I would like it with the dust jacket" which sounds like a suggestion and does not explicitly say "It must have the jacket" Everybody interprets things differently.

Date Posted: 1/11/2014 2:47 PM ET
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thanks for all the helpful replies. yes I am sure that this hardcover originally came with a dust jacket. it is a hardcover magic tree house book called season of the sandstorms. I will also change my rc so that is much clearer to members. again thanks for the helpful advice.

 

 

 

Date Posted: 1/11/2014 2:56 PM ET
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What Ls said, you can RWAP for RC's not met.

Date Posted: 1/12/2014 10:25 AM ET
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In fact, it seems to me that "I would like it with the dust jacket" almost voids the RWAP. At that point you set up a preference,  not a requirement.  I know what you meant, and I wouldn't have sent the book without a dust jacket, but it's not really what you said.

Also you have a redundency when you say, in effect, " Don't send any  book without a  dust jacket and don't send a children's book without a dust jacket." The fist clause covers the second clause.

I might even say that sometimes it might be difficult to distinguish between a children's book and a non-children's book ( Huckeberry Finn, Gulliver's Travels, The Hobbit, etc.) except you've already covered ALL hardcover books.

I hope that doesn't sound too pedantic but those thoughts came to mind.

 

Date Posted: 1/12/2014 11:43 PM ET
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"In fact, it seems to me that "I would like it with the dust jacket" almost voids the RWAP." yes 

That's my take on it as well.  Sounds like you're stating a preference, not a condition.  I don't think this credit should be forfeited by the sender due to this wording, though it's good that you're changing your RC to make it more clear for next time.

Date Posted: 1/13/2014 1:34 PM ET
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I agree with others, I would clarify your RC to be more clear. At the moment you are expressing a preference not a necessity. I understand the whole confusion about books that never came with a dust jacket. I had to edit my RC several times until I settled on: "Hi! Please, no ex-library books, or hardback books that originally came with a dust jacket but no longer have it. Thank you very much." So far I haven't had any more rejections for "this is a paperback" or "don't know if this had a jacket".

Date Posted: 1/13/2014 6:19 PM ET
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In fact, it seems to me that "I would like it with the dust jacket" almost voids the RWAP. At that point you set up a preference, not a requirement. I know what you meant, and I wouldn't have sent the book without a dust jacket, but it's not really what you said.

No, it doesn't void the RC. If someone has an RC, it is REQUIRED to follow it. Unless they mention something in their RC as optional, using the word optional, you can pretty much take it as a requirement.

I've never asked them, but I don't think that TPTB would interpret extreme parsing of people's word choice as an excuse to not follow an RC.

Date Posted: 1/13/2014 7:13 PM ET
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If someone has an RC, it is REQUIRED to follow it.

Exactly Sara. When someone accepts an RC they are clicking a button that says their book "Meets the Conditions" and if the requester's conditions say they would like a DJ, the book better have a DJ. There is no way someone can justify clicking that button by saying they didn't think "like" meant they really required it. They clicked a button saying they met the conditions so they better have met them or risk a Problem swap.