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Subject: Yikes! Thing I never knew.
Date Posted: 10/12/2015 3:32 PM ET
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Wow. Somone posted a WL book. They would obviously know before closing their browser. Why do they have 5 days to accept?. So odd! Why would you need 5 days to decide whether or not ot accept? I am having more and more trouble trying to undertand this system.



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Date Posted: 10/12/2015 3:55 PM ET
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Because the post office isn't open today anyway? (I don't usually bother accepting until I'm ready to package and send, just in case something comes up in the meantime.) Maybe they don't know when they'll be able to get to the post office next? You get a longer time, total, if you wait a few days to accept than if you accept immediately. Or maybe they posted several books at the same time and are waiting for the others to be requested so they only have to make one trip to the PO, and the other ones were on a 48-hour WL hold. Or maybe they're out of packing material and need to go to the store to buy some, or their printer is out of service and they have to wait until they can get to the library. Or maybe they don't get paid until the 15th and they're out of money for postage. Who knows? Who cares? It doesn't matter, because PBS policy allows them 5 days to accept and then however long it is to mail and mark mailed.

Mary K, you post about this constantly. You obviously don't like how PBS deals with WLed books for both senders and receivers. But the policies are what they are and they're unlikely to change. Is it doing you any good to kvetch about it constantly? Is it bringing any useful information to the other readers of this forum? I, personally, think you need to decide whether you're going to be an active member of PBS or not, and if you're staying, decide to be OK with the policies of the site as they stand. To do otherwise is creating needless anxiety for yourself and not adding anything to anyone else's use of PBS and this forum.

Date Posted: 10/12/2015 4:10 PM ET
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I think Mary would be a good person to ignore. She seems to keep repeating the same complaints over and over.

Date Posted: 10/12/2015 4:20 PM ET
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How many people will post here, trying in earnest to explain? 

Its PaperbackSwap not PaperbackSwapNow. 

 

Date Posted: 10/12/2015 4:22 PM ET
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It really doesn't matter why they don't accept instantly...the system is set up so that we can tailor the mailings to fit our lives. I know a lot of members can only mail on their day off, Saturday, or they are waiting for other books to be accepted so as to make one trip to the PO. It's the way the system works, its the way the system has always worked. What is accomplished by constantly complaining about it? Nothing is going to change.

Date Posted: 10/12/2015 5:06 PM ET
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Hey guys, although I have been a member since 2008. I first visited questions and forums around the "change" in Feburary of this year, It has been an enlightenling and somewhat frightening experience, Thanks for all your support!!!



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Date Posted: 10/12/2015 6:45 PM ET
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Well yes Laura, there are perhaps members as ignorant as to the PBS system. FYI, This is my first received enlightenment. I earlier discovered the send WL side and concluded it was not in my interest to participate in that venue.



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Date Posted: 10/12/2015 7:08 PM ET
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Wow... Threads like this make me very hesitant to ever ask a question in this forum.  Whatever happened to being nice?  It shouldn't matter if someone is "always complaining."  You chose to click on the thread and respond. 

Date Posted: 10/12/2015 7:50 PM ET
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Mary, did you have it set to auto-request? Where you the first person in line?

If you were not first then they may have posted the book days ago to someone else who did not accept and it made it's way to you. In that case they have been waiting for some to accept, etc. 

Even so the 5 days is reasonable and you should have read the basic info when you joined. You do not need to ever go to the forums to learn how to use the site. 

Generally speaking people have been nice to Mary and have tried to explain and be helpful.  Mary tells us what she thinks and does not see the other side of the coin.  

 

 

 



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Date Posted: 10/12/2015 8:03 PM ET
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BookwormKath, I hope you're never afraid to ask questions because most people are helpful.  

Date Posted: 10/12/2015 11:25 PM ET
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Was PBS different in 2008? I don't know because I wasn't a member then. Mary, didn't you get WL books in 2008, 2009, etc..was there always 5 days?

Date Posted: 10/13/2015 3:44 AM ET
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BookwormKath, the PBS policy regarding the forums is to maintain a friendly site, and the exchange you referred to earlier in this thread is not typical of the forums. Do not be afraid or hesitant to ask questions; there are many knowledgeable and helpful members who can answer your questions and who will provide helpful comments.

 



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Date Posted: 10/13/2015 8:11 AM ET
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Threads like this make me very hesitant to ever ask a question in this forum.

It's lucky for us that you did not hesitate to join in to this thread. We are always happy to see what you have to say. Especially criticisms such as this post of yours. You offer criticism of earlier posts in this thread but we don't mind because you were being nice. Actually if you criticise some person or posts in a thread it does not follow that you are not being nice. Criticism does not always have to be a bad thing. Just as your criticism of earlier posts in this thread did not seem to you to be negative.

Date Posted: 10/13/2015 11:00 AM ET
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Who was here in 2008? Was it always 5 days to accept or was that more recent? Since I've been here (a year and a half roughly) it was always 5 days..was it ever 1 day or 24 hours or something?



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Date Posted: 10/13/2015 11:22 AM ET
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Hi, Michele. I have been a member since 2006 and it has always been 5 days to accept to my knowledge. I don't ever remember it being any different.

Pam

Date Posted: 10/13/2015 12:18 PM ET
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I get frustrated over member basics such as this because people join, start swapping books but never take time to visit the Help Center and learn just how PBS works. It is the source of so many problems from people sending unpostable books ("I didn't know that books with underlining/water damage/stains, etc. weren't allowed!) to their expectations of how it works ("When are you going to send my book back to me, you've had it a month now")...quotes in italics are actual messages I've gotten from other members. I am always glad to share my knowledge with other members and I would hate to think that someone is afraid to ask a question. But when a member is asking a question that is amongst the most basic knowledge of PBS, and yes, it has always been 5 days to accept, and then complaining about it after being a member for 6 or 7 years, well, it makes me shake my head. And it makes me say "Yikes!"

Date Posted: 10/13/2015 2:51 PM ET
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Thanks Pam! I thought maybe it was a 2 or 3 day thing or even a 24 hour one at one point. 

Date Posted: 10/13/2015 9:53 PM ET
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I've been a member for 10 years and as far as I can remember it's always been 5 days.  I could be wrong though because, well, that was a long time ago lol.  

I used to always accept the requests right away and mail the next day or 2, but I just got sick of having to stop at the post office every darn day.  So now I usualy accept the request right away or maybe a couple days later but then select the option for "I can mail later" and select the date that's the furthest out.  That way I have time for other books to get requested from me in those days and I can mail multiple requests out at the same time.  Most of the time I do mail sooner than that date I selected, but it's nice having that cushion of time.

As for things changing with the memberships earlier this year, I have seen a difference in my WL books being accepted after I post them.  Often it has to cycle through and time out with 3-4 people before someone actually responds and says they want the book.  There are lots of abandoned accounts out there.  So when I post 5 WL books at the same time, I might get 1 accepted immediately, 1 accepted 2 days later, 1 accepted 4 days later, etc.  So if I accept that first one right away and say i'll mail it within two days, I'll just be stopping at the post office to mail that 1 book and then 2-3 days later have to stop at the post office to mail that second book, etc.  It's just a hassle.

Date Posted: 10/13/2015 11:10 PM ET
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A frightening experience?  I don't know...I think, like anything, you read before you join. If you don't like it, you don't join and vice versa. Frightening? What's frightening? I always feel like there's threads that I didn't see and these are the carry over so I miss things.

Date Posted: 10/14/2015 3:39 AM ET
Member Since: 1/5/2007
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I've been here since 2007 and yes, it's always been 5 days to accept.  I know this because I frequently need 5 days to mail the book.  I can't get to the neighborhood post office on the weekdays, so I mail on the weekends at a different post office.  

Date Posted: 10/14/2015 9:15 AM ET
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Why would you need 5 days to decide whether or not ot accept?

Because my internet crashed just after I posted the book.

Because I posted the book 5 wishers ago...which was 10 days ago...and now I know I can't mail it out for another few days. I didn't just post it to you 5 minutes ago.

Because DH doesn't get paid for another week and I need to wait for that money to come in before I can buy more postage.

Because I posted the book from my phone, but since I can't print the label from my phone I need to wait until I can get to my desktop computer at home to do so...so I might as well wait to accept until I'm ready to print the label.

Because I just got busy.

Because I'm allowed and always have been.

 

Date Posted: 10/14/2015 6:07 PM ET
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Because I'm allowed and always have been.

There you have it. It is totally OK to be rude and thoughtless because those are the rules. Can't wait to get out and as much as I am sure you want me to leave, it wont happen until I find some way to use my accumlated credits.

Date Posted: 10/14/2015 6:17 PM ET
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I don't think she was being rude, I think she was saying she uses that option simply because it's given to pbs members. I don't think the 5 days is unreasonable personally but I can see where some might think it's too long.

The things that just get me, i don't think there's a fix, is people leaving and not doing it properly so their bookshelf is still there, their WL is on autorequest etc and folks not marking books received until you ask them too (that may not be a huge number but still, I get enough that it bothers me to ask), and folks who just let the books time out. Like I said, I don't know if there's a fix to that as you can't get people to read and then follow the rules/guidelines. 

 

 

Date Posted: 10/14/2015 6:54 PM ET
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I just thought of his, if you really want to leave, you can offer o help with a limited membership for someone else that can't afford it. There's a thread I think in the book bazaar. If you can't find any books to order, you could do that. It's just an idea smiley

Date Posted: 10/14/2015 7:43 PM ET
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How is it rude to take a few days to send someone a book?  

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