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Subject: Lover Unbound - with SPOILERS
Date Posted: 9/29/2007 11:26 AM ET
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Warning - This thread is for those who already read  Lover Unbound by J. R. Ward to be able to discuss the book. Stop reading if you don't want the plot spoiled for you. There's another thread about this book where we haven't given anything away.

I'll even add a bit of space to hide the posts in case you stumbled in here accidentally.






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Date Posted: 9/29/2007 11:48 AM ET
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I thought I'd start a thread where we could really discuss the book.  My biggest question is about the ending.

How did everyone feel about Jane becoming a ghost?  I'm torn.  On the one hand it was a creative ending, allowing them to be together and for her to have eternal life. On the other it just doesn't satisfy me.  Theoretically, she can never be killed, never be hurt, never feel pain (which makes one wonder how she can feel pleasure). Kids are out. Is she tied to that location, never being able to leave the house? What happens when/if V dies?  It just seems like a very hollow existance to condemn someone to.

It seemed like V was secretly hungering for a very traditional picket-fence-sort of lifestyle.  Not sure having a ghost for a wife is the same. On the plus side, Jane did get immortality and a form in which V's hand touching her won't be a problem.  I suppose future magical events might restore her somehow if JR Ward re-visits the characters.

Beyond that, I'm curious what all of you thought about Phury and  his situation. I pretty much loathed Cormia. Maybe her character will grow in the next book, but there was nothing I really liked about her.

I was glad to have a book that got off the Omega / Mr. X / lessor merry-go-round for a while. But I wish she would have had a bit more about the other brothers' women.  For a house where a lot of people live, the daily interactions were strangely missing.  Oh - and I wish there had been more of the butler (Fritz?) I like him a lot.

Finally - which brother is your favorite? I think mine is Zsadist, but I'm hoping she brings Tohrment back at some point since I think he would be interesting.

What did YOU think?

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Date Posted: 9/29/2007 12:22 PM ET
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Ugh, where do I start? I hated how Jane ended up. I felt extremely jipped and I feel like V deserved better. So did Jane for that matter.

Phury.....ehhh....I don't know. I felt like with this book she totally changed who V and Phury are. To me they are both so much different then they were in other books, and not in a good way. I understand ya know they need to change and grow as characters, but she did a poor job of it. I have no real opinion of Cormia yet. I don't like or dislike her.

V has always been my favorite, I love him...he is one of my top all time bok characters, which is why I think I disliked this book so much. There was no way near enough Jane and V time, too much time with other characters. I also thought it was weird how the other women are NEVER around. I noticed that in Butch's book as well. The brothers are there but what are their women doing?

I think the only pros for me with this book are the fact that we had no more crappy lesser point of views, which I hope never comes back. Also I love that she came out and had V saying he wanted Butch and that he is into the "rougher" things. If she had played those off as nothing I think I would have stopped reading her. Mostly I hated that it wasn't really V's book, it was V's, JM's, and Phury's book and thats just....ugh. Phury's book better be better or I will think J. R. Ward has lost her touch.

Date Posted: 9/29/2007 2:47 PM ET
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First off, I was surprised about the Scribe Virgin being V's mom. I actually became to dislike the Scribe Virgin in the past few books, and I did so here again in this one, until the very end when she gave up her love for V's love.  She's still not one of my favorite people though, especially with V's twin sister, Payne, suspended in animation....... I look forward to reading that story!

John Matthew, I'm glad to see went through his change pretty well, and I look forward to the progression of his story. I liked how it brought Darius back to us in some form. I actually wish there was a story about Darius.  Alot of storylines would actually make more sense knowing his history.

The beginning of V's book had alot of potential of Jane's story with the opening act of her sister. I felt that Hannah was left on the back burner. I'm glad about the revealing of V's history of the Bloodletter.......things made alot more sense for me. But, the ending just totally didn't jive. I agree with Ashley, V and Jane deserved better.

I don't loathe Cormia. I don't have any opinion of her yet. Not until I get to know her, and her history.  I do agree with Jo, Im glad this book wasn't filled with the Omega.........that was getting tiresome. But where are the women? It was like we saw a cameo of them, but that was it! I want to know how Mary, Bella, and Beth are doing and what they are doing. Besides Bella being pregnant.....and I want to know where Tohr is ....and what he is doing lol Bring them back!

My favorites of the brothers at this point still V and Zsadist, but who knows what the future might bring.

Date Posted: 9/29/2007 8:35 PM ET
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Wanted to say that I stopped reading for a few hours before the last few chapters because I was so pissed off about Jane. Like V needed more loss in his life. I am glad that I finished it though, very good ending, very unexpected. I am looking forward to Phury's book. I am concerned that he is going to become too attached to Cormia though. If he does that will be good for him but then who is going to mate with all the other ladies? I wish they could find another plan though, I don't like the idea of any of them having to do it. I hope things work out with John though...

Date Posted: 10/1/2007 9:32 AM ET
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It was....okay.  The ending was a complete deus ex machina, which really bothered me.  If the author had set up or introduced the idea of ghosts beforehand, then i could have at least gone with it.  But bringing Jane back as a ghost, with no mention of this being possible before it happened,  just didn't work for me.  Not that I was happy when Jane was apparently dead and gone for good, but at least it felt real. 

As for the rest ot the book, I also agree it was nice not to have a lesser POV. 

I would also like have a little more interaction with the women in the house.  We got to see a little of Bella in this one, but that's it.  

I'm sure I'll read the next book when it comes out, but I probably won't be as anxious to get it as this one was a bit disappointing. 

Date Posted: 10/1/2007 1:49 PM ET
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 Although well written, I just was sadly disappointed in the story. I thought the author did well fleshing out a few of the secondary characters, but to be honest, these stories have a familiar tone to them. Maybe I'm just biased because I love Sherrilyn Kenyon. Some of the characters and story lines just seem like cheap imitations, but that's JMHO. I will probably read the next book just to satisfy my curiosity, but I don't think I'll rush out to buy it.

Date Posted: 10/1/2007 10:08 PM ET
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Not sure if anyone will check this out...but I found this on JR Wards forum.  This may help alot of you understand more of the Vishous and Jane ending.  I think it helps in the understanding of why this happened to Jane, and how it is working for them.   This is on the lifetime site, a special little story that she wrote for us. It is called Slice of Life  http://www.lifetimetv.com/lifestyle/entertainment/romance-b-u-y-book/exclusive-jr-ward-slice-life?page=0,0    I would be interested to hear what you all think about  this. 



Last Edited on: 10/2/07 6:39 AM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 10/2/2007 5:48 PM ET
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I love the interview!  Or, the non-interview, as the case may be.  That was a fun read.

Date Posted: 10/2/2007 5:55 PM ET
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Thanks for posting that. I had read some other "slices of life" she had on her site, but I hadn't seen that one. It was interesting.

Date Posted: 10/2/2007 10:00 PM ET
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I was kinda "meh" about the book. I was looking forward to Jane and V's happy ever-after and felt a bit gipped at the end. I did like the stuff about John though (especially since he has one of the few normal names in the books, LOL). I am still looking forward to the continuation of the series though!

Date Posted: 10/7/2007 5:05 PM ET
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I DID NOT like this book!!!  The idea of a ghost is really goofy.  How can anyone other than V have much of a relationship (Casual conversaton, let's bake cookies, girl stuff like going shopping) with Jane?  I couldn't even get into this one.  I liked her first 2 books and then I thought she started to get a little out there even for the BDB!  It started with Z and Phury (Phury being jealous of Z after all Z went thru) to Butch being blood with Wrath.  And Marisa-----------I don't even want to go there.  I agree that her story lines are getting unusual to say the least, and her characters just don't interest me anymore. 

I started to collect all her books in HC/DJ.  Now I really wish I hadn't bothered as it's a waste of $$.