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Subject: smokers condition I need help please
Date Posted: 4/14/2009 9:22 PM ET
Member Since: 8/17/2005
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OK I only post WLed books anymore and someone wants my book by Kim Harrison...I do not smoke....nobody is allowed to smoke in my home or on my property.......but...........I got the book from another member on the site....though I do not smell smoke..I sniffed it lol......how do I know if someone ever smoked when they owned this book?  I wanted to pm this person to see if that sounded OK to her but see no way to do that .....it just said meets or doesnt meet conditions ...no pm button........What do I do? She may have waited a long time for this book so I am just perplexed....THANK YOU AHEAD

Date Posted: 4/14/2009 9:32 PM ET
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For me it would depend on the condition.  Some of them say "not currently in a smoking home".  That one, I would accept.  I've seen others that say, "Has never been exposed to smoke".  That one I'd decline because I don't know.  In the area where it asks you to explain, I'd state the reason.  I would imagine if her allergies are severe enought that she meant "never exposed to any smoke" she'll be grateful, if not, maybe she'll change her RC's to better state what she wants.  For me, I generally err on the side of caution, rather than risk sending someone a book that will disappoint her. 



Date Posted: 4/14/2009 9:33 PM ET
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I have a no smoking condition on my books also and all I really want is for people to do what you did....fan the book and give it a sniff.  They usually have a pretty distinct stench if they have been around smokers before.  I would accept it and then you will be able to PM her and if she says no, then you can cancel if you need too.

Date Posted: 4/14/2009 10:06 PM ET
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Ah thank you both....She just put due to allergies...I think I will do the accept and tell her to see this thread or just tell her my concern...I too have smoking conditions but mine are like very clear......THANKS BOTH :-)

Subject: I had same question just an hour ago!
Date Posted: 4/14/2009 11:38 PM ET
Member Since: 3/31/2009
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It said she had severe allergy issues with smoke and I don't smoke but I got the book from someone else.  I just declined and let her know why and then the choice is hers.  My book doesn't smell like smoke.  It smells like a book!  I wasn't sure if even though it doesn't smell like smoke if it is possible to still have an allergic reaction to it.

Date Posted: 4/15/2009 12:01 AM ET
Member Since: 8/10/2005
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I would simply go by the way the conditions are worded. As others have said, if it is clear and says "not currently in a smoking environment" that's easy. I would accept. If it says "never exposed to smoke because of severe allergies" that's easy too--I would decline. Unless you bought the book brand new, there is really no way to know if someone else had *ever* smoked in the book's presence.

Myself, I decline any RC that isn't clear as stated. If I'm not sure, I decline. RCs should state simply what is required. You should not have to PM the person after you accept the order in order to 'clarify' or ask a bunch of other questions.

If you accept, PM her with a question and she then decides she doesn't want it, you would need to decide who cancels the order--if she cancels, she loses her place in the WL line. If you cancel the order, you cannot post that book again until someone else who DOES meet her conditions posts it and she accepts. If you do post it again right away, it will just go right back to her. And then what happens if you PM her, and she doesn't respond? Maybe she's away from the computer for a few days. Do you go ahead and send the book or not? It just opens the door for a lot of unnecessary problems, I think.

On the other hand, when you decline because your book doesn't meet conditions, she stays at #1 in the WL line so she can be offered the next book posted, but your book moves on to the next person on the list. Everyone wins.


Date Posted: 4/16/2009 10:13 PM ET
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THANK YOU ALL AGAIN...As it turned out she got my pm and pmed me back with a note thanking me for being honest and said to send it...she will air it out .....its a hard to get book so I am glad I didnt bum her out by saying no......she has waited for that a long time

Date Posted: 4/17/2009 2:49 AM ET
Member Since: 12/28/2006
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Jessica, if the RC says severe allergies I'd probably turn down requests for any book I'm unsure about.  Once you decline, the book is no longer offered to the requesting member...in fact, I don't believe they can go back and request the book again from the same sender.   If you accept the request and then pm the other member for clarification, the sender/you can still cancel the transaction and requestor will not loose their place on waitlist. 

Date Posted: 4/17/2009 8:15 AM ET
Member Since: 8/23/2007
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They've changed it now so that you can request a book from a member who has turned it down for RCS before. I don't know if you have to turn them off or change them or what.

I don't PM.  If I can't tellyl by your RCS if my book meets your conditions then I don't accept.  I'm not going to go back and forth about the books condition. I was PMing when I first joined. Then of course someone didn't respond and I didn't know what to do-to mail the book or not.  So no more PMs from me.