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Subject: ARC books
Date Posted: 4/19/2015 6:48 PM ET
Member Since: 5/7/2007
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I requested a book and it became available to me.   I didn't notice this right away as it was over a weekend and i was out of town.  When i came back and checked my email i had gotten this PM "This is an ARC book, is it ok to send?" followed by another email a day later "since you didn't respond, i'm sending it to you".   I emailed the member back stating that i do not want the book because its an ARC, against the rules, and i can't repost it.   Her response was, "well, i got it from someone else on here who asked me the same thing before sending it to me.  I don't see why it's a problem".   I don't think the question should have come up at all since it was an ARC.

I hope that most people are following the ARC rules and not posting them for swapping.   I straight out told her that i will be marking it RWAP and she may lose the credit.  Don't want to be mean, but there are rules for a reason,


Last Edited on: 4/19/15 6:54 PM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 4/19/2015 7:01 PM ET
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Kellie, if you're waiting for a Wish List book, then you might want to use the "contact us" link at the bottom of your screen to have PBS cancel the transaction and put you back in line. Usually the sender has to cancel, but since they've already admitted it's a ARC, you should be able to get back in line right away.


Date Posted: 4/19/2015 9:15 PM ET
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Good idea, but she had already mailed the book by the time I saw her email.   She thinks there is nothing wrong with what she did.  I tried to explain why but she doesn't get it.  

Date Posted: 4/19/2015 10:34 PM ET
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Kellie, it doesn't matter that she mailed the book.  She knew it was against the rules and you will lose your place in line if you don't do what Carol suggests. You surely don't want to mark that book received.

Date Posted: 4/19/2015 10:45 PM ET
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You will not lose your place in line either way. But since she already admitted it's an ARC, use the contact us link now. TPTB can put you back in line and give you your credit back even if she doesn't agree to it. Definitely mark it RWAP if it gets that far.

Date Posted: 4/20/2015 12:05 AM ET
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Yes, what they said.  Mark the book RWAP when it arrives, or report it to TPTB early if you wish.  "The sender received the book via PBS" is no excuse to repost unpostable books (although popular excuse).

PBS Swappability guidelines clearly cover ARCS here and here.  Feel free to pm quotes to your sender.

Not allowed:

  • Anything that is not a book (this includes calendars, coloring books, blank journals)
  • Anything that contains advertising (such as single-issue comic books or comic book digests or magazines)
  • Advance Reader Copies* (also known as ARC s, Review Copies or Uncorrected Proofs--these are not the final versions of books)
  • CD-ROM books/e-books (books that must be read on a computer)

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Date Posted: 4/20/2015 2:35 AM ET
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I agree with the above comments. In addition, I am amazed that the sender sent a PM the following day stating that "since you didn't respond, i'm sending it to you".

Wow. At the very least, she should have waited several days for a reply. Regardless of whether the book was postable, mailing the following day after asking the receiver a question about acceptability without having gotten a reply first was unreasonable.

Date Posted: 4/20/2015 7:21 AM ET
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Thanks for the replies.   Makes sense about staying in line for the book and reporting it now.   Yes, I wasn't happy when she told me she had already mailed it.