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Subject: Is this an ARC? Can I post?
Date Posted: 4/20/2008 3:27 PM ET
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I went to the NY Comic Con the other day and received a paperback copy of Seize the Night by Sherrilyn Kenyon. There is nothing on the cover to indicate it is an ARC although "Free" is printed in the corner on the back cover. Also, there is no ISBN listed anywhere in the book. The paperback was originally published in 2005 so it would make sense that it is not an advanced reader copy but I thought I'd ask for some advice on whether this is postable. There is also a free sneak peek at Acheron at the end of the book.
Date Posted: 4/20/2008 5:42 PM ET
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Check the inside first few pages, sometimes it will say Uncorrected Proof on the inside or something like Advance Copy, even if it's not on the cover. If it doesn't have an ISBN and says free, it might be a promo copy. Just because you received it recently doesn't mean it wasn't printed back in 2005 as an ARC. At PBS, an ARC is still an ARC, doesn't matter if the book is long since out. I wouldn't list it. Someone's sure to complain. It's not worth losing a credit over.

Date Posted: 4/20/2008 6:00 PM ET
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Check the back of the title page, the ISBN should be there towards the bottom if it's not listed on the book itself.

Date Posted: 4/20/2008 9:48 PM ET
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I cannot find an ISBN number anywhere in the book. But it is definitely a promo copy because it was handed out for free at a convention. What I don't know is if that makes it an ARC. because this is a recent reprint that has a sneak preview of Kenyon's book ACHERON which comes out in the summer of 2008. When SEIZE THE NIGHT came out in 2005, I bought it. It did not have a sneak preview of ACHERON in it. Also, I am pretty sure that an ARC would not have a sneak preview for a book that isn't going to come out for three years. So it seems to me that it cannot be an advanced reader copy. Plus I did receive some ARCS at the convention put out by the same company (Dell) and not only were they clearly labeled as ARCs but the paper was a different type than what one usually finds in a paperback. ARCS are promotional copies but are all promo copies ARCS? I am a bit scattered today so I hope this all makes sense.
Date Posted: 4/21/2008 1:03 PM ET
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I wouldn't list it because it seems to fall into a gray area. Actually, I would reccomend you email R&R and ask them, then report back. I'd love to hear their take on it. My interpretation is that ARCs cannot be traded because they cannot legally be sold. Your promo copy acts as an ARC in this sense. I wouldn't want to spend a credit on a promo copy when I thought I was getting an actual copy, especially if the book was a keeper.

Date Posted: 4/21/2008 1:28 PM ET
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it doesn't sound like an ARC and I don't equate a promo to an ARC.  an ARC is an uncorrected proof, used by publishing companies to get reviews and such. 

if there is no ISBN anywhere in the book, post it using the NO ISBN method and you can put in the description that it is a promo book (which some may or may not read) or you could put it in parenthesis after the title.

Last Edited on: 4/21/08 1:30 PM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 4/21/2008 3:00 PM ET
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Please do not edit the title to include the word Promo. This is not acceptable. The title of the book, should be the title of the book. Exactly as the rest of the copies of the book are listed.

I do agree with Lauren, that you need to write the PBS Team, using the link in the Help Center, and get a ruling on whether it is postable or not. I assume it probably is, but will need to be listed as a non-ISBN editon of the book, but again, do not put the word promo in the title. You should go ahead and add to the description that it does have the preview of the other book in it.

Date Posted: 4/21/2008 8:16 PM ET
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Thanks for your help ladies. I'll email the powers that be and post back when I get a reply.