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Subject: Does anyone get discouraged..
Date Posted: 10/28/2011 5:21 PM ET
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Does anyone else get discouraged when your not getting any WL offers ? Its been a while since I've gotten any. I've been #1 on alot. for awhile.

Also ,there have been a few WL books  that havent been posted in a couple years ,which I've ordered ( and spent too much money )

from amazon. Why do you think that is ? Are people not buying them , or keeping them for there keeper shelf maybe ( I understand that.)

Any way , since I've ordered them maybe I could get the ball rolling...Or is it not worth not posting since some where $15.00 ? 


And what about , your R.L . When you post in the thread "what books are you looking for " Does that work out well for anyone?

Okay , I'm done with my complaining now....LOL   I apologize for being whinny...I guess I'm just going threw a cranky period..crying

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Date Posted: 10/28/2011 5:27 PM ET
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It goes in spurts for me. Two weeks ago, I had 6 WL books sent to me, one was an OOP book and I was in the #1 position for that one for almost two years. Since the book avalanche two weeks ago, nothing.

It's hard to be patient sometimes. Your turn will happen. smiley

Date Posted: 10/28/2011 5:59 PM ET
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I tend to average 5 or 6 WL books a month, but last Spring I went through a total dry spell.  It goes through phases. One thing, though - your list isn't maxed out. The more books on your WL the better your odds of receiving one!

Date Posted: 10/28/2011 7:00 PM ET
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My take on the $15 books:

To me, it doesn't matter if I spent 50 cents or $15 on a book, if I'm finished with it. If I won't read it again, it's of no further use to me and I'd rather trade it for something I want to read. YMMV, of course.

And, yep, it might help if you add more books to your WL.  Good luck... I hope your WL books start rolling in soon!

Date Posted: 10/28/2011 7:26 PM ET
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Do you watch the Wish List multiples thread? Some of your books look like ones I've seen going through the Bazaar multiples thread in the last couple of months. If many of your WL books are $15 because they are trade size, people may be offering them in the WL muliples threads to save on postage.

Date Posted: 10/28/2011 7:58 PM ET
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Thanks everyone. and on the $15.00 dollar books , I was just wondering if it would be more practical to take it to a UBS to trade it for books thats cost $2.oo.

But Jo , I do agree with you .

and I'll start watching the WL threads


Date Posted: 10/28/2011 8:40 PM ET
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I feel that way too. Hopefully both of us will get a few wl books soon!
Date Posted: 10/28/2011 9:17 PM ET
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I can't afford to send out a bunch of books 1 at a time, so I only offer my WL books in the WL multiples thread.  There are probably others like me.  I frequently go through the "what books are you looking for thread" to see if I have anything anyone wants.  And I've also had people offer me some I was looking for in there.  Every little thing you can do helps.

Date Posted: 10/28/2011 9:39 PM ET
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I think we are seeing fewer of some types of books posted Lisa, especially the small inprints and tradesize.  IMO, it's a combination of factors such as economy (less disposable income), local bookstore selection (decreasing), and many readers (PBSers included) are moving all or part of their reading to e-readers...thus buying fewer print books to trade.

Hope you get some wishes fullfilled soon!

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Date Posted: 10/28/2011 9:47 PM ET
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Tayna , hope you get some soon yes

Sassy , I completely understand & I'd be glad to even accept multiples...lol

Denise , thanks I had not thought of some of those things ( economy ,yes)  but not some of the others.

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Date Posted: 10/28/2011 9:49 PM ET
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My wishlist offers come in spurts.  Sometimes it seems like I can't get any and other times, I'm getting an offer every other day.

I have posted expensive books to the WL.  Recently I posted one that seemed to be going for $40+ on the UBS market.  It felt good to gift someone and it was a whole lot less hassle making someone's day than selling the book.

One thing PBS has taught me - patience.

Date Posted: 10/28/2011 9:59 PM ET
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NewRuth ,  your right.! I'm gonna post the books I just bought  and hope it makes someones day. as they have been waiting probably as long as me.

Date Posted: 10/28/2011 11:06 PM ET
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My WL seems to move pretty regularly, but I also get a lot of my WL books in the PBS swap games.  They're fun and there are games for just about every genre.  I used to watch for my WL books in the genre forums too, but now I just mostly play the games for my WL books.

Date Posted: 10/28/2011 11:48 PM ET
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If I wasn't a Gold Key member, and didn't play in the games and didn't watch the Book Bazaar I'd get few, if any WL books.  I rarely get any FIFO, which is sad. 

I wish there could be something done to encourage more WL books being posted.

Date Posted: 10/29/2011 2:22 AM ET
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I just finished a Feed the FIFO game.  One book went to the person who won my reveal and the unchosen went to FIFO.  Since there were 25 of us, I think we gave FIFO a bit of a nudge.

Date Posted: 10/29/2011 7:32 AM ET
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I would check and see if there are other versions of the books you're wishing and add them all to the WL.

ETA: I will probably host a reading challenge soon. In the last one I hosted, players posted over 300+ books and most of them were WL.

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Date Posted: 10/29/2011 8:27 AM ET
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Lisa- I just wanted to reiterate what Denise said about e-readers.  I looked at your WL, and a lot of the trade books on there are ones I'd be more likely to read as ebooks.  I actually read them on my computer, but with Kindle lending and often much lower prices on those types of books, I often manage to get a lot of more uncommon small press type e-books.

I am not a gold key member, and I get WL books FIFO quite a bit.  Some smaller press, more obscure and trade books seem to crawl, but other books fly.  For example, I've been first for a YA trade size pb since it came out months ago and nothing.  I put another book on my wl, where I started at 52, and I got it within 3 weeks.  I do look at the WL threads, but lately most of the WL books I've gotten have been from FIFO or virtual boxes.

I look at the RL threads and post to them sometimes.  I don't look at them as much as I used to, because it seems like lately people often insist on 3/1 deals or better.  I understand wanting great deals, and I'm happy to do multi credit deals, but for 1 credit the postage doesn't make sense.  I'd be better off donating the books and buying a credit.

Ronda (RONDA) - ,
Date Posted: 10/29/2011 9:10 AM ET
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I would suggest watching this blog because a few of your wishlist books have showed up as free or low prices ebooks.  You don't have to buy an ereader to use them as most have reader apps for PCs, phones etc.  (amazon just put out a $79 reader, so not so expensive any more if you do want an ereader)

I have picked up over 900 free ebooks since sept 09 when I got my 1st kindle, mostly from following that blog

& sometimes they will have the same book free later too, so it is possible that one you missed will come up free again.

Also, for many books the ebook price is lower.  and I prefer reading on an e-reader to paper books.

And as far as buying new books,  with pbs and free e-books, I have not bought very many at all.  and now I can also get ebooks from the library, so another avenue that will reduce new books showing up.

Date Posted: 10/29/2011 11:07 AM ET
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Thanks everyone for your great advice :)

Date Posted: 10/29/2011 6:07 PM ET
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Having been a member for more than six years and looking back over that time, I would say that wish list offers tend to be 'streaky'...a week with none, and then five all at once sort of thing. But while there may be short periods where I've not had an offer, overall I would say I get a fairly steady amount of wishlisted books, and probably 99% of those are from FIFO. I don't even look at the bazaar or play games, I think I've gotten one wishlisted book from a Gold Key friend since that started, and only rarely had a book posted directly to me before that.

I think it does depend on what types of books you wishlist to some degree. I'm a big reader of mysteries, with a few paranormal and fantasy and general fiction, and never seem to have problems getting books...in fact, I have recently pared my wishlist from being maxed at 200 down to just over 100 and am still getting books. I also post a lot of wishlisted books, and unless I get a friend notification (with gold key) and it's someone I know very well, I just post to FIFO...last week alone I posted about 20 wishlisted books to FIFO. I haven't noticed any difference in the amount of books I get since gold key came into being, either.

These days I am usually relieved when I go a week or more without a wishlist book coming up, because it gives me a little time to read a few books and get my TBR pared down a bit more. LOL


Date Posted: 10/30/2011 2:51 PM ET
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Most of my WL books are not printed yet for the most part.  I am a hound dog at looking for the newest releases that I can jump into the line with the lowest numbers possible.   The wait on those will always seem extraordinarily long due to the months between wish date, publishing date and post to system date.  I try not to even think about it.   The earlier I am in line for mmpbs the more I find posted to me through FIFO. There are always those who buy new releases and get them posted pretty quickly.   I personally cannot bear to be over 40 in a WL line.  I also look for deals  or multibook offers in the WL threads.  If books are requested from me, I try to look through the requestor's wishlist and see if I have any others I can offer to mail as a group to save postage.  I always pm and ask first just to make sure they have credits available or even are interested in them at the moment.  Sometimes the favor has been returned.  They will look at my WL and post books to me or come up with something from their BIR or TBR pile that they can post to me.

Sitting and waiting for your WL books is a game of patience.  I've had a better time in the various forums, games and looking through/posting to the people on my friend list and being involved in the site that way.   The book that's been on my WL the longest (2006 if I'm not mistaken) well, I'm finally in the #1 spot--I started at 6:lol:  

I really haven't noticed any gold key advantage to receiving WL books---just the volume of WL books I have has increased:LOL:

Date Posted: 10/30/2011 3:03 PM ET
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I looked at your WL and from experience some publishers are harder to get FIFO and games are a better source.  True crime doesn't seem to be offered as often as more mainstream fiction.  Sometimes it is the type of books on our wishlists that make the wait longer and offers less frequent.   I sort of rationalize my book buying by putting mmpb's that will be offered more frequently and saving my money for some of the books like erotica that don't post as often. 

Date Posted: 10/30/2011 3:05 PM ET
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No, I don't get discouraged. I have so much to read, much of it WL books, already that I don't worry about what I don't have. If I want it bad enough (sequel or something like that) I'll go out and buy it or now, download it onto my Nook.

As it is, I'm trying to curb the books I purchase and receive. I have so much, it's crazy. I'm trying to read more on my Nook and curb the buying and "needing" a tangible book since I have so much. I'm sure that takes into my account of not really paying attention to my WL books and when they get offered.

Of course, when I'm offered one (it can range from once or twice a month to up to a dozen) I happily accept! cheeky

Date Posted: 11/1/2011 9:14 AM ET
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Well, after my really bleak dry spell last spring - I'm now getting pelted with WL books at such a rate, I'm woried I'll run out of credits. I have no idea what's going on.

Date Posted: 11/1/2011 12:39 PM ET
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This is not a comment directed to the OP (I promise) ... but I have noticed a trend where people want to receive WL books, but they aren't too sure about posting them themselves.

Everybody seems to think that other people should be posting WL books more frequently .... but they themselves are not posting more, for whatever reason. (Lots of the reasons are good reasons ... I'm just saying that I am not surprised the WL posting is slowing down, because it is a trend that everyone just seems to be posting them less).

If you aren't part of the solution, you're part of the problem.smiley

I've kept posting WL books even though I do not need the credits at all. I do it specifically so that other people keep feeling like they are receiving WL books, so they in turn will keep posting them too.

I will say that my #1 concern about the viability of PBS (and wanting to read new releases) is the ever increasing popularity of e-readers. I don't see print versions of new book releases ever speeding back up (except for the mega releases), in fact, I believe that they will keep slowing down more and more for those of us who are waiting for the printed books. 

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