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Subject: Does anyone know how the candidates stand
Date Posted: 10/16/2008 1:49 PM ET
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I can't seem to find this info. I am not a homeschooler  ( my husband and I do not see eye to eye on this issue). But homeschooling is near and dear to my heart.

Please help.

Thank you

Date Posted: 10/16/2008 2:45 PM ET
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Do you mean their position on homeschooling?

www.hslda.org , (Homeschool Legal Defense Association) may have some info but I haven't checked.

 

Date Posted: 10/16/2008 3:01 PM ET
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Carla I also found this blog http://homeschoolersformccain.wordpress.com/ but it clearly supports McCain so I don't know how accurate their Obama info is. (they didn't include links).

Date Posted: 10/16/2008 3:51 PM ET
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I saw info about McCain's support of both HS'ing and expanded virtual charter schools on his site.

I can't seem to find the spot on the site now.  Here's the main issues>>education page:

www.johnmccain.com/Informing/Issues/19ce50b5-daa8-4795-b92d-92bd0d985bca.htm

Ah, here's some virtual school info...but I still can't find the HS'ing stuff:

From:  www.johnmccain.com/Informing/News/PressReleases/read.aspx

John McCain Supports Expanding Virtual Learning By Reforming The "Enhancing Education Through Technology Program." John McCain will target $500 million in current federal funds to build new virtual schools and support the development of online course offerings for students. These courses may be for regular coursework, for enhancement, or for dual enrollment into college.

John McCain Will Offer $250 Million For Digital Passport Scholarships To Help Students Pay For Online Tutors Or Enroll In Virtual Schools. Low-income students will be eligible to receive up to $4,000 to enroll in an online course, SAT/ACT prep course, credit recovery or tutoring services offered by a virtual provider. Providers could range from other public schools, virtual charter schools, home school parents utilizing virtual schooling resources or district or state sponsored virtual schools. The Department of Education would competitively award the funds to a national scholarship administrator who would manage the student applications, monitoring, and evaluation of providers.

Okay, I did a Google search of the site:

From:  www.johnmccain.com/informing/news/NewsReleases/2c1aba78-4dfb-4164-8baf-911ce52337cd.htm

"We have got to upgrade our education systems, particularly in low-income areas," McCain said. He talked about the charter-school system and home-schooling as other alternatives for low-income parents.

I still can't seem to find the original info I saw about this.  Urgh.  If it comes to me, I'll edit my post.

JC

Date Posted: 10/16/2008 4:54 PM ET
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JC - You seem to have done more research than I. Have you come across anything saying what Obama's position is on homeschooling? I'd be curious to know.

Date Posted: 10/16/2008 4:55 PM ET
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 Thank you so much I'll check those links. 

I do know Clinton wanted to sign that European treaty that would have said that homeschooling is child abuse. That's what the Europeans think it is.

So I'm interested to find out what these two think. I've watched the debates, but they didn't say much.

Thanks J.C. and Char for answering.

Date Posted: 10/16/2008 6:19 PM ET
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<<JC - You seem to have done more research than I. Have you come across anything saying what Obama's position is on homeschooling? I'd be curious to know.>>

No, because I just happened upon the info on the McCain site.  I wasn't looking for it.  But I will say this, I would bet that the teacher unions back Obama.  The other labor unions do, as they typically do with democrats.  We all know what the NEA thinks of HS'ing...so much so that they let a school janitor write an opinion piece on their web site about how horrible it is.

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Date Posted: 10/17/2008 9:11 AM ET
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I have heard nothing about Obama's position, but McCain was also speaking about expanding the voucher program during the last debate. I only caught the last few minutes Obama criticized him because the voucher program is very small and even expanding it would not offer enough vouchers or something like that. McCain came back with something about discarding a program that was working just because it can not accommodate everyone does not make sense. Anyways, McCain was for vouchers and Obama seemed to be against them. That is all I've heard on it.
Date Posted: 10/17/2008 10:20 AM ET
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I did find Project vote smart. It has a lot of information just not homeschooling.

Also found this although it has not been undated.www.terriebittner.com/2008_presidential_candidates_homeschooling.html



Last Edited on: 10/17/08 10:28 AM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 10/17/2008 4:04 PM ET
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If you don't mind me putting my two cents in here.  I did hear that Obama supports the child's right act.  In which the government will have the right to choose how your child is educated.  Which is bad not only for hs but also for private christian schools.  Clinton said we would support it but he couldn't sign it in because it went against too many laws that are already passed.  But from a statement I read towards the beginning of all this election year, he said that he would do everything in his power to sign that act for the United States. 

Basically what the law would do is, if you as a parent wanted your child to go to a Christian private school, the government could come in and say that your child couldn't go there and had to go to a public school because they may not teach evolution or some other subject that you may be opposed to.

And JC you are correct that the teacher's unions are supporting Obama.

Sorry if I interrupted a conversation!! :-)

ETA: I've been on HSLDA looking because I figured they would have something but so far I can't find anything.



Last Edited on: 10/17/08 4:08 PM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 10/19/2008 12:49 AM ET
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Hi Stacey,

Thanks for the input. I don't think it is a private conversation.  I was trying to get all the information I could.  I don't want a candidate who will let the government put it's nose into our job ( parenting ) anymore than it already is.  And homeschooling is the subject I have not heard addressed directly.

Thanks

Date Posted: 10/19/2008 1:26 AM ET
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I agree Carla. Parental rights are diminishing all the time.

Stacey, the only thing I've found on HSLDA's site is their interviews with the presidential candidates done in the summer of 2007. I didn't find Obama there though.

 



Last Edited on: 10/19/08 1:32 AM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 10/22/2008 10:48 PM ET
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bumping this up because it's getting buried under all the book offer threads.

anyone have anything else they found?

Date Posted: 10/23/2008 8:55 AM ET
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Hey everyone I just received this in my email from a homeschool used books group.  Hope this helps!

http://f2a.org/coast2coast/voterguides/F2A-Presidential-2008.pdf

And I found a copy of the UN act at this site

http://www.unesco.org/education/pdf/child_e.pdf

How about anyone else?

ETA Okay why are my links not working?  Okay let's try this again!!

 



Last Edited on: 10/23/08 8:58 AM ET - Total times edited: 2
Date Posted: 10/26/2008 12:30 AM ET
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 Thanks Stacey,

The voter guide really helped. Very informative.  I couldn't get the UN site to work though.   I'm glad McCain supports homeschooling. I was kind of leaning that way. Well really more than leaning.

 

Thanks again.

Carla