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Subject: are they appropriate to post as a "non- postable"?
Date Posted: 12/15/2008 3:09 PM ET
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i have books that dont have their front covers on them. 

I dont want them and i know that they are not postable  but .....are they appropriate to post as a "non- postable"?

 

Thanks for your help?  Melanie

Date Posted: 12/15/2008 3:20 PM ET
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Since you arent trading them for a credit then yes you can post them as free with order from shelf or something similar.  Just make sure to state they have no cover and there should not be an issue. :)

Date Posted: 12/15/2008 3:29 PM ET
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Sorry Pam, I have to disagree with you. According to the help center:

Cover:

  • Must both be present (front and back)
    • note that a paperback missing its front cover is  usually an illegal, unsold copy

Based on that, I would think PBS would shy away from offering these up, even as a freebie.

Just my view, anyway.

Date Posted: 12/15/2008 3:38 PM ET
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Never mind!



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Date Posted: 12/15/2008 3:38 PM ET
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Yeah, I agree...since it doesn't have a cover, it is often an illegal copy of the book.  I would pitch them (personally) and I don't throw away books very often!  LOL

Date Posted: 12/15/2008 4:02 PM ET
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I know a library that does this to their books and they give the copies away.  I forgot about the fact some stores also do this with unsold books.

Date Posted: 12/15/2008 4:10 PM ET
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Just because it doesn't have a cover doesn't mean it is illegal and I hate that note.

A friend used to wear the covers off his books. I don't know how, but most of his books were missing his covers, and they weren't when we got them!

Some libraries do it as well.

(While the ones from the bookstores are the illegal copies, my opinion is they should stop mis-ordering/mis-printing so badly.   It's horribly wasteful, and they shouldn't be able to keep people from doing something with those books.)

Date Posted: 12/15/2008 6:46 PM ET
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The fact is stripped books are widely regarded as being illegal copies even if an indivudal or library may have stripped them.  I don't think it's a good idea to offer up what could be an illegal copy in a public forum.  It's the kind of thing that could at some point cause trouble for the site if it happens too often and catches someone's attention.  I would toss them.

Date Posted: 12/15/2008 8:09 PM ET
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I would think it would be OK to list them as unpostables. People have been offering up their ARCs as unpostables practically since the site began, and TPTB have never put a stop to it, and it's technically "illegal" for the original recipient of an ARC to pass it along to others...

Date Posted: 12/15/2008 8:20 PM ET
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I'd offer them up too as freebies.  If someone's got a problem with a book with no cover, then they won't ask for one.

I've found books at booksales without covers.  I have no way of knowing the origin of the book and I wouldn't have any problem passing on such a book.

Date Posted: 12/15/2008 9:30 PM ET
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thank you guys.  I really appreciate the discussion.    I think  i will post them as nonpostable freebies because i cant bring myself to throw out something someone can read.  i really dont know where they came from and im not trying to get credits for them so whats the difference if they are in my basement or someone elses right?  

Date Posted: 12/15/2008 11:07 PM ET
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I won't offer an opinion on rather to offer them, but I will say this - since those with no front cover do make some uncomfortable as being potentially stolen 'remainders', if you HAVE a cover, but it has come off and is in a pitiful, shredded condition, I would personally encase it in tape as if i were lamenating it, tape it on, then admit in the 'unpostable' list that the front cover was shredded, taped together and handing on by a thread. then people will know why it is unpostable, and that it is not a stolen remainder. I will mention, though - hard cover remainders are marked with a indelable marker mark along the page edge, then sold at discount stores. And those are fully postable here, I checked when I joined.
Date Posted: 12/15/2008 11:27 PM ET
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<<I forgot about the fact some stores also do this with unsold books.>>

Stores do this with unsold books beause they send the covers back to the publisher (rather than the whole book -- more postage) to get credit for the unsold books.  To then use/sell the books is illegal, because the author isn't getting royalties on it, etc.

I think Latricia's suggestion is a good one.

Cheers,

Catt