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Subject: Book Bazaar check up - Feel free to add to this post
Date Posted: 7/29/2008 9:45 PM ET
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Hello All,

I'm back. Sorry if you sent me a pm and I didnt' reply. I was not ignoring you. Life was a bit crazy, but I'm back now. I also have internet at home, so that will help me to respond more quickly to questions.

A few reminders:
Lets all play nice. Not try to cheat other people. Not try to play games. Not be rude. Those are normal rules of life, but now and then we all need a reminder.

If you have NOT read the rules, but were just kind of "winging it" and are lost, read the rules. They tell you how to post books and how to request books and so on and so forth. Good stuff to know.

Now its your turn to add your thoughts to this thread. I CAN'T get more sticky threads in here. So if you see a topic you like add it to your "watched topics" list. They you can bump it up when you need to.

Comments, suggestions, questions?????

Date Posted: 7/29/2008 10:28 PM ET
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Hey, welcome back, Bernie!!

I have a reminder suggestion - it's a good idea to list your genres available in your deals.  In the Subject line if possible, but at least in the text.  This does two things; it catches the eye of folks looking for those genres, and lets those who don't want that genre to pass by without wasting time looking.

IMO, it's the polite thing to do, for the second reason, and my experience has always been that it increases requests, because of the first reason!

Date Posted: 7/29/2008 10:31 PM ET
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Very good point!! It will cause more folks to flock to see what you have on special. Some folks won't even bother to look at a deal if someone doesn't mention the genere of the book.  Thanks for pointing that out!!

Subject: Read it...
Date Posted: 7/29/2008 10:43 PM ET
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Along that being polite line.....

Please actually read the offer!!!  

 You know, and then actually ask for what is on offer. Not something else.

I usually just try to give the asker what they want if it is somewhat reasonable. BUT.....GEEZ, if I had wanted to offer, say Hardbacks in a deal, I would not have written PAPERBACKS ONLY in the offer..... You know!?!

Also,   I have noticed that if I offer cheapy "series romance" as  a 5 for 1 deal, I have a hard time. I always call them "series romance' and then I always list the examples of "Harlequin, Silhouette, Desire, SuperRomance" just like that in the offer. And invariably at least two people will PM me for "famous authors" and want 5 of those for 1 credit.

I understand that there can be confusion in terminology, but all of my little problems have literally been because the requester is just not reading the whole offer post or at least not paying attention to what they read......

Deep Breath!!  I feel better now!! Thanks for listening!!

Tracy

 

Date Posted: 7/29/2008 11:01 PM ET
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Well I know that there have been times that I have read a thread and not read thoroughly and felt embarassed by my own lack of reading when I found out one of the books I was going to get wasn't part of the deal.  I felt terrible and was more than willing to pick another book that was in the deal.  So I've been there, though not because I was trying to pull a fast one, just that I wasn't reading the thread clearly enough.  Just thought I'd admit my guilt in this because I know I've been guilty of it before and I apologize for it.

 



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Date Posted: 7/29/2008 11:31 PM ET
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You're not the only one Angie. I've done it myself and had it done to me a couple of times.

L. G. (L)
Date Posted: 7/30/2008 3:33 AM ET
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And fergoshsakes STOP SPAMMING THE GENRE FORUMS WITH YOUR BOOKS AND DEALS!!!

Not you, Bernie - the eggheads out there.

I swear to God there's a new post almost daily in one genre or another.

 

Date Posted: 7/30/2008 6:50 AM ET
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Date Posted: 7/30/2008 6:57 AM ET
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I agree with Linda.  Another item that I skip are the "looking for"'s that are in paragraph form.  The titles and authors seem to run together and it is difficult to determine what the list is.

Date Posted: 7/30/2008 7:53 AM ET
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Perhaps add a statement about trading PBS points for points at other sites to the rules thread...  The powers that be did post about that once in the forums but I don't think the rule is in the help center.  So people post their offers and then get a zillion PMs and posts saying that that type of offer is not allowed, and sometimes take offense since the rule that they inadvertantly violated is not spelled out anywhere other than in old posts.

 

Also, only one bump per day, for goodness sakes people!  :-)

Date Posted: 7/30/2008 8:02 AM ET
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Good thread here, Bernie, and welcome back!

Here's my pet peeve though I haven't seen it as much lately:  excessive bumping.  We all want to be on "page 1", and with so many deals lately it is difficult, though all the offers are certainly great for shoppers!  Some folks don't bother to read or maybe follow the rule about only one new topic posted per day and only one bump.  It's fine to submit another post with new information or to mention that the shelf has been updated, but gee whiz..."any more requests?"  or "offer still good" is still a bump!  

Whew!  This has been rattling around in my brain for quite some time.

Date Posted: 7/30/2008 9:54 AM ET
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Thanks everyone for adding to this. Its nice to see what is on everyone's minds!! I have been so out of touch lately, I had no idea what was/is going on in here.

You all bring up very good points!

I also really urge folks to read the info at the top of the page. If you dont know what a 3 for 1 is, that will tell you.

As for damaged books, you need to pm the person who has the offer. If you just request the book, it will ask you for a credit. So you  must pm the person who has the damaged book to get it. Just requesting it the normal way will require a credit.

Please refrain from asking for a heavily wishlisted book and trying to bump the others who have been in line, sometimes for years! Yea, the we all want the latest book, but lets try not to cut in front of others to do it.

Date Posted: 7/30/2008 10:00 AM ET
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yep, me too Angie.....just yesterday as a matter of fact!    Like you, it's  not intentional, I must admit I'm a bit of a skimmer and don't always read through the whole post.  I also usually have the kids and puppy distracting me too - excuses, excuses.....   Yesterday's post was more of getting my dates mixed up though.

Date Posted: 7/30/2008 10:11 AM ET
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Also, keep an eye on your Book Bazaar deals.

I recently agreed to a 2-for-1, and when the poster did not send the order in time my request rolled to the next person in the FIFO list. If I had been paying attention I would have cancelled the request when the first person didn't send it, and I wouldn't have spent a credit on a book I was only willing to 'deal' for.   

Date Posted: 7/30/2008 11:55 AM ET
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Please, please don't use book deals to get rid of unpostable books. I've received books in 3-4-1, 4-4-1 or 3-4-2 deals and several of the books will be obviously unpostable with water damage, cleaved spines and just basically worn out and falling apart. Then I feel like a jerk complaining because I got them in a deal. It's hard to explain to someone that 3-4-1 really becomes a 1-4-1 if two of the books are unpostable.

Date Posted: 7/30/2008 12:20 PM ET
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I've had the same problem as Aerika. Too often when I order a book deal one or more of the books is in unpostable condition. I feel like a boob complaining about it because the person sent you so many books (so I never do) - but if it's on your bookshelf to be chosen in the first place then it should be in postable condition. Offering even a 10/1 on your bookshelf shouldn't excuse that rule.

Date Posted: 7/30/2008 1:17 PM ET
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I have also had the same problem as Aerika...ordering a 3 for 1 or 4 for 1 off of someone's shelf and end up getting an unpostable.  Since they are on your shelf, they should all be postable. 

I have a request from those offering deals.  If you have a common allergen in your home, such as cigarette smoke, please list it in your deal.  If you decline someone with requestor conditions, their order automatically goes into FIFO without notification and the requestor ends up getting a book that's not part of a deal.  If you have requestor conditions, be sure to let the person who's offering the deal know so that they can tell you if they meet the RCs and if not, the requestor needs to cancel...not the person running the deal. 

Thanks for the reminders, Bernie. 

Date Posted: 7/30/2008 1:20 PM ET
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Sending unpostable books in a deal??? That is so wrong!!

People, check your books! If it shouldn't be posted, don't post it! Water damage, mold and so on, a big NO NO in PBS! The only time non postable books should be included in a deal is if they are part of the deal!! I would be very annoyed if I took advantage of a deal and some of the books were unpostable.

Keep in mind, alot of folks repost the books they receive on PBS. Just because you received it in poor condtion is NOT a free pass to post it on your shelf!! Yes, we all would love brand new, never even looked at books, but come on! Do unto others and so on.

Subject: Recieving unpostable books in a deal.
Date Posted: 7/30/2008 1:54 PM ET
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I too have recieved unpostable books in a deal.  It was a "BOB" deal for, I think, 8 books.  Over half of the books were unpostables and the rest were barely postables.  This is very upsetting to the people who send out books in like new, or at least good condition.

It may not be possible, but it sure would be nice to have a place to list the people who send out unpostable books.   Whether they are sent in deals, or just in a request, it would be nice to have a way to know before you deal for or request books, just who the offenders are.  If not a list, maybe some way to flag them ( like by their nickname) so that others will be aware of them.  I know that there is a way to complain about them, but that does not warn others of what to expect.

If you already have something like this set up, please mention it in the thread so that I will know about it and can use it.

Are you going to make this thread a permenant thread?

 

Pamela P.

Making a complaint and getting your credit/s back is fine when it is a requested deal, but what recourse like that would you have when it is a "BOB" deal?



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Date Posted: 7/30/2008 2:15 PM ET
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I've seen a LOT of deals offered, and much to my disapointment, the person only had 20, 30, or so books on their shelf.  Being strickly a SFF person, if you have only 20 books, there is very little chance of your having anything I'm looking for.  This is what I put in the subject line for my first deal,  "3 for 2 on over 300 books in all genres"  It would be very helpful if most of your shelf is mostly one genre, say romance, to list that information.  Also, I would like to know approximately how many books you have before I go to your shelf.

Date Posted: 7/30/2008 2:23 PM ET
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I have absolutely no complaints - just a comment. I love, love, LOVE the Book Bazaar. It's the first place I come to when I get onto this site and I'm always cruising through the deals. That's half the fun! :) 

So, no complaints from me!

Date Posted: 7/30/2008 2:28 PM ET
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I've had the same problem as Aerika. Too often when I order a book deal one or more of the books is in unpostable condition. I feel like a boob complaining about it because the person sent you so many books (so I never do)

 

But you should complain (report as RWAP and send the person a PM)!  Please do in the future. I've had problems with book deals just a few times, but in each instance received a refund of my credit after requesting it.

Pam

Date Posted: 7/30/2008 3:17 PM ET
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How do you deal with someone who replies RWAP and you know there was nothing wrong with the book? That was done to me and instead of causing a problem, I returned her credit even though I didn't think it was right. Being a fairly new member who was guilty of not reading all the rules first, I felt I was taken advanatage of because I knew the book wasn't "chewed' as she said it was.

Karen

Date Posted: 7/30/2008 3:33 PM ET
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Date Posted: 7/30/2008 4:49 PM ET
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 Pamela P.

Making a complaint and getting your credit/s back is fine when it is a requested deal, but what recourse like that would you have when it is a "BOB" deal?

 

I don't know. I'm not a boxer and have no experience with BOB deals.  I was referring to book bazaar deals.

 

 



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