Discussion Forums - Questions about PaperBackSwap Questions about PaperBackSwap

Topic: book has ISBN, but PBS and Amazon don't

Club rule - Please, if you cannot be courteous and respectful, do not post in this forum.
  Unlock Forum posting with Annual Membership.
Subject: book has ISBN, but PBS and Amazon don't
Date Posted: 4/10/2017 7:40 PM ET
Member Since: 9/22/2010
Posts: 3,516
Back To Top

From Marianna to Mooseburg ... and Back  (978-1-63192-326-5)

Can't find it here or in Amazon. A Web search by title turns it up on a German site, with a different ISBN ( 9781631923272), which PBS also doesn't have a record of, but Amazon does.

I'm not sure what to do about this, but I will contact the PBS crew and let them know about the Amazon page with the same title but different ISBN.

Minutes later.... I also just found it listed on PBS under a short ISBN - 475366 .

So, how can I turn this into a mystery novel? Do I really need a murder? smiley

Last Edited on: 4/10/17 7:49 PM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 4/10/2017 8:22 PM ET
Member Since: 1/17/2009
Posts: 10,125
Back To Top

It's on the US Amazon but as a Kindle edition. It does not appear to have a print edition. At least in the US, on Amazon.

From Marianna to Moosburg ... and Back: One B-17 Crewman's Story of War, Redemption, and Family Reunion by Wayne B. Wetherington

Plus, the title as spelled in your post is incorrect. So, maybe that's having an effect on your search?

Date Posted: 4/10/2017 9:26 PM ET
Member Since: 9/22/2010
Posts: 3,516
Back To Top

the title as spelled in your post is incorrect. So, maybe that's having an effect on your search?

Inititally, I mispelled it, but before I posted here I corrected the title in my searches.  I must have mispelled it again when I added the title to this thread. I wonder if this book was printed in Germany... but in English?

Nope. I just checked the book, and it states printed in the United States. It's a first edition autographed by the author with a dedication to Santa Fe College to which he apparently donated it. That is a college in my county. And Marianna is a town in northcentral Florida, which is what attracted me to the book.

Uh... here is a clue. The publishing company is listed as the "author's name Publishing." I doubt the guy has his own firm,  so it may have been printed by a small private firm. And it states it was printed in the town where I live live.  Still, it was assigned an ISBN.

Date Posted: 4/11/2017 8:46 PM ET
Member Since: 1/17/2009
Posts: 10,125
Back To Top

Try contacting the publisher or maybe if the author has a website, try contacting him thru his website, to find out how uyou can purchase a copy. Maybe it was self published, maybe it's a very small press?

Date Posted: 4/12/2017 4:02 AM ET
Member Since: 1/7/2007
Posts: 1,031
Back To Top

Thomas - 

Your book also has a PBS (ISBN) book number - 475366 - but not a copy posted. #475366 has a front cover view. 
I'm guessing that the Author had a story that needed to be told and wrote and published his own book - probably limited to 500 or 1,000 copies. I would hazard a guess that sales were also limited to nearby locations and possibly  (since the cover has a B-17 on it) sold at an existing Air Force Museum that had/has B-17 to view.

You might try some local bookstores to his hometown area, as well as a bookstore or two near an Air Force Museum that had/has B-17's on display - you might also ask if they could ask around to see if anyone had a copy available and leave a POC for them if they found one. 

I'm also guessing that there is no ISBN for this book.

I want to think (that) there is an Air Force Museum up in the Savanna GA area for paratroopers stuff(?) and they had static displays of B-17(s). Might be a Google Search away to locate a book store at that museum and send a e-query? (another new word?) to them.


On a side note - I have two copies (autographed) of a USMC guy who wrote a self published book about the greatest women he ever knew (and married) - sometime you have a story to tell and you really want to get it out there. His books were sold locally and I had came across a small stack of perhaps 20 and only took two. It was a very good read - when I went back to the (Church) Thrift Store that had them there were no more copies available, The clerk said that it was a local man and he had passed on. 


Good luck in your hunt Thomas and thanks for all the Skeeter stuff you do for us - (ouch, blast another one buzzing about - where's the Raid!)

Danny N (Alameda) - Havelock NC


Last Edited on: 4/12/17 4:07 AM ET - Total times edited: 2
Date Posted: 4/12/2017 5:04 AM ET
Member Since: 9/22/2010
Posts: 3,516
Back To Top

Thanks for everyone's suggestions, but I actually already have a copy of the book. The problem arose when I tried to add it to my TBR list. That is when I discovered the problem with the ISBN. There are two ISBNs. The one listed in the book doesn't find the book on PBS and Amazon. The one I eventually discovered on the German site led me to find it on Amazon, but it is not on the PBS site. I told all this to the PBS team and their response was to enter it as a book without an ISBN.  I won't do this unless I decide to post it to my bookshelf.

Date Posted: 4/12/2017 5:17 AM ET
Member Since: 1/23/2014
Posts: 889
Back To Top

There is a way to add a book with the ISBN to PBS.  Can't you still do that even if you're not posting it to trade for a credit?

Date Posted: 4/13/2017 6:44 PM ET
Member Since: 2/12/2006
Posts: 4,535
Back To Top

You can, but it's somewhat of a hassle.  Remember, you are POSTING the book!  So, you have to put your bookshelf on hold, create the listing using the Post a single book, have the book in-hand as you have to add ALL the data yourself (except ISBN), look for the listing, then delete the book from your shelf and then it's safe to take your shelf off hold.  Sometimes the system won't recognize the ISBN as valid - then there is no choice except to post as Book Without an ISBN, or wait to see if it ever shows up....

eta: this is NOT a generally recommended way to open because all too often, members do NOT include even the most basic data (author, line of genre, publisher & date, description).  Of course, more is better!  Dimensions and WEIGHT are truly helpful - as much sub-genre as possible, please?

Last Edited on: 4/13/17 6:51 PM ET - Total times edited: 2
Date Posted: 4/13/2017 9:15 PM ET
Member Since: 9/22/2010
Posts: 3,516
Back To Top

Anna, actually I do that all the time with older books, but I don't take the step of placing my bookshelf on hold. Once it's on my bookshelf I go to the page, add it to my TBR list and delete it from the bookshelf. I've never had a request for one of those books.

In this case, I just linked to an existing 5-digit page created by someone else. PBS does not recognize either of the ISBNs, not even the one Amazon does.