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Subject: Book from a non-smoking environment ?
Date Posted: 12/27/2009 1:35 PM ET
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I just got a book request from someone who requires the book from a non-smonking environment. I do not smoke, but how in the world am to know where the book came from to me. I bought it in a used book store, did someone smoke there, did the pressman who ran the printing press smoke. I am new to this website, this seems a bit picky.

Date Posted: 12/27/2009 1:45 PM ET
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You'll run into a lot of them as to dogs, cats and smoke, as well as chemicals and perfume due to allergies and preferences. Some are more definite as in "currently in a smoking home" as opposed to "ever in a smoking environment." If I'm unsure, I decline. If you accept and the recipient doesn't think it meets their criteria - you lose your credit.

Date Posted: 12/27/2009 1:46 PM ET
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Usually this means that they want a book from someone who doesn't smoke. Many people have allergies to smoke, and the smell can linger in books that are exposed to heavy smoke. It's not really being picky.

If you don't smoke and you don't think the book smells like smoke, its probably OK to accept the RC, unless its worded in a way that makes you think they don't want books that have EVER been exposed to smoke, in which case, since you aren't sure about your book, you would decline.

Edited to add ... nobody can take your credit. What happens is that if they think the book is smoky after all, they mark it "Received with a Problem" and then ASK for their credit back. You do not have to give the credit back unless you agree with them that it was smoky. They might be unhappy with you, and an unresolved "RWAP" (Received with a Problem" mark) can count against your membership at PBS if you accumulate too many of them .... but you choose whether or not to return the credit.

So, generally, people don't like to expose themselves to the possibility of getting a RWAP, but its not the end of the world if you do.

So, the best thing is to accept if you are reasonably sure that your book meets the conditions, and decline if you aren't sure.

Last Edited on: 12/27/09 1:50 PM ET - Total times edited: 1
Subject: And in the same vein...
Date Posted: 12/27/2009 3:00 PM ET
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If  I need to decline several requests within a month due to really specific conditions, does this count against my membership at all?  Does anyone read/evaluate/pay attention to the reasons which we give for having to decline?

Date Posted: 12/27/2009 3:32 PM ET
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No, not at all. Some people refuse to accept ANY RC at all, just 'on principle' (whatever that means.) If you smoke or someone in your house does, or if you have cats or dogs or a lot of ex-library books on your shelf, it's possible that you'll turn down a bunch of requests. It is MUCH better to turn down a request for RCs than to ignore them and send it anyway and then get called on it! The Requestor Conditions are just a way for people to indicate that they want "something above and beyond" what PBS general posting guidelines state--if people refuse, no harm no foul.


Date Posted: 12/27/2009 4:04 PM ET
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As a person with a RC, I think it is the responsibilty of the person with the RC to write a very clear RC.  Black or white.  Yes or no.  If you are unsure, turn it down.  The person with the RC should edit it so it is polite and clear. 

Here is an older thread that talks of writing RCs.  I found it helpful when rewriting mine.


Date Posted: 12/27/2009 4:56 PM ET
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I hate smell RCs.  IMO they are just too subjective.  Your nose may be more sensitive than mine.  I've received 400+ books from PBS and can only remember one that had a strong smoke smell.  Somebody else might have sniffed that same batch of books and said more of them smelled bad. I quit smoking years ago, DH quit last year but DS occassionally smokes in the living room so I automatically turn down all smoke RCs. Even though my books probably don't smell it's not worth the hassle to send a book to somebody and have them hit me with a RWAP.

Date Posted: 12/27/2009 5:55 PM ET
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Welcome to PBS Benny!!

There's already good advice posted above, so I'll just add...if you are uncomfortable or not clear about the RC, feel free to decline.  You are not penalized, nor receive 'black marks' for declining. 

Date Posted: 12/27/2009 6:11 PM ET
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I have the book wrapped and ready to go. I think that I will mail the book. I have had the book for at least a year and no one smokes in my house. I could not smell anything so if I lose the book, no big deal. In the future I will just decline to send them. Thanks you all have been a lot of help.

Date Posted: 12/27/2009 6:42 PM ET
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My personal rule of thumb:  If it's been in my home for 30 days or more, then it's coming from a non-smoking environment and I need not concern myself with where the book may have been before.