I recived a book today and I am not sure how I should mark it.

The books cover has come off and someone has taped it back on to the first and last pages. I dont personally mind for my reading pleasure. But I am unsure if I am going to beable to post this book when I am done.

I am new here and this is the first time I have had a book with a problem. So Should I mark it recived, or recived with a problem?

With that damage can I post it when I am done?

No you cannot repost it. Book covers much be intact (and not by tape holding it on after it fell off). You should mark it RWP - damaged by sender. You can copy and paste the section of the Help Center on book condition about Covers. You are within your right to ask for the credit back and, no, you do not have to send the book back to them unless they give the credit AND cover postage. IF you want your credit back, please make sure to ask for it. If they settle the transaction to your satisfaction, remember to go into your Trans Archive and mark it as settled, it they do not mark it as not settled.

Sorry you got a bad books so soon. Welcome!

Hi and thanks for your reply.

I looked in the help section and I am unable to find anything that says the cover must be intacted here is what I found it says about covers

Cover:

• Must both be present (front and back) *(the cover is there just taped on)*
  • note that a paperback missing its front cover is  usually an illegal, unsold copy
  • "cover" does not = dust jacket.  Hardcovers do not need to include their dust jackets to be swapped here.
• Cover not water damaged (there may be no water damage to any part of the book)
• Cover not torn or chewed/gnawed
  • some used book stores cut out a small part of the cover; if the amount missing is less than 1 inch, this is OKAY
  • a small rip (less than 1 inch) in the cover is OKAY
  • yes, that does say "chewed/gnawed" above.  That means no pet-chewed (or human-chewed) books.
• A bookplate inside the cover or on the flyleaf is OKAY

I am not good at confronting (small weekness I have) and I would like to have all the documention to back it up.

I would consider this book as being "excessively worn" and therefore doesn't meet the blanket statement by PBS that the book "is in good condition and not excessivly worn." I would also think that a torn front and back cover doesn't count as an "intact" binding. This is all wording from PBS:

When you Post a book, you are asked to confirm that the book is "in good condition, and not excessively worn".

Binding:

• Must be intact, with no separation on the inside or outside of the book
• If the book tends to open at a particular page, this is OKAY
• Small amount of fraying or denting at top or bottom is OKAY

But I'm fairly new here, myself. Good luck!

I realize that this probably isn't true - but I just wonder if some people mail these types of books to new members hoping that they won't know the difference. I'm sure no one puts these books on their bookshelves just waiting for a new member to request them.  But it seems odd that most of the problems seem to be sent to new members.  Maybe I ought to ask how long these senders have been members themselves?  I know people don't read (things like directions or rules).  But it just seems all too coincidental.  I'm sorry that this happens.  I certainly would never consider a book arriving with a cover held on to the book only by tape as a postable book.  I'm amazed that other people try to do this.

Ruth

Ruth,

With the FIFO line, you don't get to pick and choose who requests your book, so I don't see how anyone would be able to post and unpostable book with the plan that it  will go to a new member who might not know any better.  It think the issue really is that ,more new members are more likely to post to the forum with questions when they get damaged books because they aren't confident yet about what is acceptable here at PBS.  More long-term members probably just deal with it without posting to the forum.

Karen

I think that the 'older' members dont post about stuff like this becasue we have already been thru it. We just contact the sender and take care of it.  It's the newer members that it is new to and they post about it.  does that make sense?

It's a no-brainer.  A book that has the cover held on with tape is unpostable.  That's simply ridiculous.  At some point common sense has to kick in.

Ruth, anyone who has a habit of doing this stuff isn't going to be part of the club for long.  You can bet if someone has sent 200 or more books, they are probably a decent swapper.