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Subject: Box of Books time limit for shipping?
Date Posted: 5/20/2009 2:10 PM ET
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Date Posted: 5/20/2009 3:11 PM ET
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I'm new to boxing, but I was told that most people stick to mailing within two days from acceptance.

ETA:  Easy folks!   I'm just saying someone who had been boxing awhile told me on my first swap that two days was the norm on mailing.  I agree that two days is not always easy to do......but being new to boxing I had no idea what was acceptable.  I agree it should be determined between the parties involved.............



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Date Posted: 5/20/2009 3:54 PM ET
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Date Posted: 5/20/2009 5:05 PM ET
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Thanks. I thought that you were supposed to mail fairly quickly - guess everyone's idea of quickly is different though. I mailed mine immediately, which is what I thought was the whole idea! Of course, I had requested a book for a credit - not box of books and the other member accepted and it states that the book will be mailed by 11:00PM on the 17th and it still hasn't been mailed either. Is there someone who keeps track of this stuff?

Date Posted: 5/20/2009 5:27 PM ET
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The system will reorder the credit book for you if theydon't mark it mailed by 11pm tonight-you get a 2 day grace period.  If there aren't any copies posted then it'll put it on your WL. 

Some people only go to the post office once a week and so I woujldn't freak out if your BOB wasn't mailed off in a day or two.  I only go once a week and will even let a request sit a day or two to get me more mailing time-unless it's a small enough book for me to stick in the mailbox. 

I would be really annoyed if I was getting PMs from someone asking me when I'm going to mail just a few days after doing a BOB deal.

Date Posted: 5/21/2009 1:17 AM ET
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There is no time rule on BoB's and I find it extremely tacky to expect someone to mail quicker than the average credit time. I've got at least 5 days to accept, and you've got the right to cancel if you don't want to wait. I've also got the right to take at least 5 days to get it to the PO, depending on the day, personally I consider that 5 business days and don't expect holidays to count.

I've run across one person that expects the 2 day mailing, but doesn't bother to tell you. The second time we did a box she gave me a neg for not mailing in 2 days (over a weekend, mind you). You can bet she's not getting any more of my books.

Date Posted: 5/21/2009 7:57 AM ET
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i have been boxing for almost a year... this is something- that if it bothers you- needs to addressed in a pm to the potential swap partner before accepting the swap.

there is NO time limit to mail your books. not 2 days. not a week. not even a month. this is to be determined between you and your swap mate. i personally think 2 days is unreasonable (this despite the fact that in general i mail mine same day as accepted). 1 week is acceptable. 2 weeks acceptable. but there is NO set schedule. if this is important to you- then you need to work it out before you click accept- never after!

i think a week is reasonable. but sometimes i have had people ask for 2 weeks- to mail after they get paid. sure- i do not mind. so long as they get mailed!

but- my tbr is pushing 300 so i am not in a hurry for more books!

also- every once in a while i simply forget to mark mine mailed. more than once i have been sent a pm asking me to mark it mailed- they got their books already!!!



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Date Posted: 5/21/2009 10:52 AM ET
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WOW!!! Easy people! I was not trying to be tacky, rude or unreasonable. It was a simple question because I did not know the answer.

The PMs I sent were not only to boxers! A member (not a boxer) that had accepted my request and the book information CLEARLY stated that they would mail the book by 11:00 PM on the 17th. I got an email from Paperback Swap today stating that the book was returned to my Wish List as the member did not respond to their emails. If only they had let me know that they couldn't mail the book for whatever reason - I could have been out trying to find it somewhere else.

The other PMs I sent were simply asking the members if they knew of an approximate time frame when they might be mailing the books. I was not rushing anyone - I just thought it might be nice to have a time frame in mind - and I clearly stated this in the PM. As a single parent, I am constantly going and doing and it would be nice to have a general idea of when a package might be left laying on the steps in front of my house so that I could make sure that myself or a neighbor were around to pick it up and make sure that it didn't disappear or get rained on, etc.

Frankly, I think that if it is going to take a week or more to mail the books that YOU should be the one to mention this - people shouldn't have to ask. Just like any other transaction you generally expect to receive the products quickly! Five days is not an unreasonable time frame - which is one of the options you have when a member requests one of your books for a credit. I only wanted to know if the same timeframe applied to boxers.

For the record, my books get mailed immediately. I make sure to fit it into my schedule to mail my books/boxes right away. I understand that not everyone can do this - it gets really difficult - but if for some reason it were going to take me more than five days - I would be sure to let people know as they wouldn't have ordered the books in the first place if they weren't worried about getting them. I have NEVER left a negative on ANYONE for any reason. So.......if you just want to criticize me, make unfair assumptions and call me tacky - please don't bother leaving a reply!

Date Posted: 5/21/2009 11:16 AM ET
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hope you werent talking to me!!! i know i come off on the posts as sharp- trying to work on that but not much luck so far : )

i do generally mail my books out same day. but i do think alot of us boxers pm a bit as part of the negotiations. it is a very rare thing (for me) to just see a request and select my books- i generally pm both ways. part of what i discuss is mailing timeline...

and to be technical- it can be way more than 5 days before a book you requested is mailed. say you ordered from me. nd i waited til the last second to click accept, then i clicked the last possible date to mail- and used the 2 days graced added to that- it would be something like 14 days (and i know my #s are wrong and i know some helpful person will correct me!)

i am not sure how long you have been a member- but there is no rhyme nor reason to the media mail- it could be 2 days for a book sent 5 states over. it could be 3 weeks for a book sent 32 miles... or 3 months for an apo. or 2 months to hawaii. or 9 days from alaska. there is no way to tell.

and never trust the little mail truck if someone uses dc. it beging its journey as soon as you mark a book mailed- even if it takes you a week to get to the post office...

hope this helps- and was maybe a nicer tone than before- i was not trying to be rude or offensive. thats just me....

 

Date Posted: 5/21/2009 11:33 AM ET
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If people are taking a month to ship BoBs I'm glad I'm not in the program anymore!

I can see longer to ship a box than a book, because you have to get to the PO, but really--more than 2 weeks seems excessive.  If you need more than that it should be PM'd before acceptance to make sure the other person is ok with that.  If the other person agrees, fine, but it shouldn't be just fine w/o communications.  I had BoBs not shipped (grr) and others not shipped until mine was received (RUDE), so I'd get touchy at someone sitting on their box until the stars were right.

Date Posted: 5/21/2009 1:35 PM ET
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I have generally found that most boxers mail out books within 3-4 days of acceptance.  I have also found that the vast majority of the time that someone will take longer than that they send me a PM.  I have a huge TBR pile, and a box being mailed today, tomorrow, or next week is not a big deal to me personally so long as they get here in a reasonable amount of time...and IMHO 1 month is reasonable.

I have received PMs from boxers who will take more than a few days to ship either because they had an emergency, are currently away, etc. and they wanted to let me know.  I always thank them and tell them not to worry, to mail the books whenever they get back home.   

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Date Posted: 5/21/2009 2:10 PM ET
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Date Posted: 5/21/2009 2:34 PM ET
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I've been a Boxer for over 3 years.  I have found that there are some people who will accept my offer, but do not mail out their books until they receive mine.  I've heard other people mention this also.  This is not the norm, but just thought I'd mention it.

Date Posted: 5/21/2009 2:52 PM ET
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Thank you Andrea A.!! That is what I was looking for. Wonder who you would contact to have a time frame added to the shipping for boxes. Even if it was 2 weeks or whatever! I'm not going to be real happy if everyone waits to receive mine before mailing. Never thought about that until now. Completely NOT FAIR!!

Date Posted: 5/21/2009 3:47 PM ET
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Some people have been burned by boxes of books not showign up or the books being in bad shape. So they wait now.  There is a contact us link at the bottom where you can suggest that they have a boxing mail by deadline.

Date Posted: 5/21/2009 4:40 PM ET
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There isn't a set time frame, but I would be very irritated if you had done a box with me and were already here posting on the forums and PMing about time frames for mailing.  I have never waited more than a week to mail a box, and usually it's in a day or so, but these are FREE books and I'm not going to bust my butt to get it out same day when I can just take it the next time I'm out running errands, which is every 2 or 3 days. 

My boxes left a couple days ago to the same people who have not shipped mine!! I have tried contacting the members, but now they are not responding to my PMs!!

You said you mail things out immediately.  So you are saying it's been a few days since they were accepted and you are already freaking out?  You do realize media mail can be slow, right?  And that people might not mark it mailed the instant that it's mailed?

People who are obsessive about things like this are exactly the type of people I wouldn't want to box with.  I really enjoy PBS's laid back atmosphere, and for the most part, everyone has been helpful and understanding.  Chill a bit...99.9% of the time, your books WILL come.

Date Posted: 5/25/2009 7:57 PM ET
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I agree that a couple days is too fast to freak.

I highly disagree these are FREE books.  FREE book are those that friends bring over and leave.  Nearly free books are the ones in my garage I took at the end of a garage sale, where I just had to move them/pay for dinner for a friend to help since my ankle was acting up.  Normal priced books for me are $1 or less from rummage sales or thrift stores.

$2+ in shipping per book plus tape and gas and time.....even cutting the shipping with a BoB still doesn't make them free.  Especially for the smaller boxes, the book costs were still up near the normal amount, with more hassle.

Date Posted: 5/25/2009 10:03 PM ET
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If you have any suggestions that you would like implemented on PBS you use the "Contact US' link at the bottom of the page.  That's not to say that they will do it, but at least it will be there for their consideration.

Ruth

Date Posted: 5/25/2009 10:30 PM ET
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I haven't read each post thoroughly, but I didn't see t his info posted as I skimmed through.  Let me say that there is no time limit with BoBs, as already discussed.  However, if communication IS key in any swap if there is going to be a delay or you'd like something quickly..if possible.

This is from the HC: What if I never receive my Box-O-Books?

If you have agreed to a Box-O-Books swap and the other Boxer's books don't arrive (or if the swap is not marked mailed by a week after it was accepted), you should contact the other Boxer using the Personal Message button on the swap, to ask if the Box was mailed (or when it might be mailed).

If the other Boxer does not respond to your Personal Message within a week, you should contact us and we will look into the situation.

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So, while there is no time limit, as mentioned in the other HC item, a week is considered customary and if you haven't heard anything go ahead and send a PM.