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Subject: Cheesy Romantic Vampires vs. Real Bloodsucking Parasites on Humanity
Date Posted: 1/3/2010 10:23 AM ET
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I am personally sick of Twilight and all of its teenage and other admirers who think this is horror!! Well I detest romantic vampires!! Who could fall in love with a living dead thing that sucks your blood like a tick???  Now Anne Rice had her first three books on cue with cleverly disguised vampires who seem friendly and then kill you. Who may have a conscience about killing human but in the end they are vampires and all humans will die.

 

Now Twilight is not only TERRRIBLE writing ( St ephen King has been quoted as saying that this series is some of the worst writing he has ever seen)

But a cheap hollywood rip off to make cheap rip off movies!!

 

If Hollywood would again take a look at some of the great Vampire books about   "Real" vampires, Evil, bloodthirsty, conniving, world domination types, then he should look at 

They Thirst, by Robert McCammeron

Necroscope  by Brian Lumley

At least these vampires have some brains and everyone knows that vampires cant physically do anything with  Humans except suck their blood so the sex thing is out Sorry Laura Hamilton but your books suck too.  Anyone Care to comment??

Date Posted: 1/4/2010 1:58 PM ET
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I agree. Twilight is very bad. Vampires do not sparkle! Twilight is not horror in any way shape or form.

One book I loved was Sunshine, the author in that addresses sex with vampires in a very amusing way and its rather well handled.

I could see vampires using sex to lure or dominate a human, then when they are utterly vunerable they bite.

If anything I see vampires as the ideal creature that can manipulate humans to do what they please, and take utter pleasure in being able to do so.

I have yet to read Necroscope. I plan to do so this year. Looks awesome.

Subject: I totally agree
Date Posted: 1/4/2010 4:38 PM ET
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Twilight just sucked all the fun out of vampire, lol! 



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Date Posted: 1/4/2010 4:50 PM ET
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 Well,I read Twilight because of all the hype-um-didnt get it.I am loving "The Vampire Diaries" (the tv series).I like both kinds of vamps myself. I like to read "horror" vampire stuff but also enjoy"funny paranprmal romance" vampire stuff.I have 3 or 4 pf the Necrescope books but havent read any of them yet.

Stacy

Subject: Good vampire books
Date Posted: 1/4/2010 5:01 PM ET
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Necroscope is a wonderful series, and I loved They Thirst.  It sucks They  Thirst is out of print!

The new movie, Daybreakers, looks like it's going to put a little fang back into the vampire genre, I can't wait to see it.

I don't mind there being sex involved in a vampire story (as long as it's not a cheesey romance), but one of the reasons I loved Vampire Winter by Lois Tilton, Let me In by John Lindqvist (already been made into a movie...and being remade currently), and The Strain by Guillermo Del Torro (This would be awesome realized as a movie, with Del Toro directing!) was because they made their vampires unable to have sex - which is really refreshing considering so many vampire novels are just basically porn-without-plot type stuff.

Do you have any other books you could recommend that are like those?  Like, with viscious vampires - not some teen romance story?

These are some of my favorites, that have bloodthirsty vampires rather than romantic pansies:

Afterage by Yvonne Navarro (would make an awesome movie)

Anything by David Wellington (13 Bullets, 99 Coffins, Vampire Zero, etc.)

Bottomfeeder by B.H. Fingerman

Dracul: The Return by James Wardlaw

Fevre Dream by George RR Martin

Fiend & Voice of the Blood by Jemiah Jefferson

Hollywood Vampires by Matt Jones

I am Legend by Richard Matheson (Movie already made...and remade...and remade, lol!)

 

Live Girls by Ray Garten (would make a great movie)

Lord of the Dead/Slave to my Thirst by Tom Holland

30 Days of Night series by Steve Niles (movie already made, sequel in production)

Salem’s Lot by Stephen King (movie already made)

The Vampire Within series by Drew Silver (This would make an awesome movie)

Those Who Hunt the Night by Barbara Hambly

Vampire Winter & Darkness on the Ice by Lois Tilton (I'd love to see Vampire Winter made into a movie - it would be like Cormac McCarthy's The Road, but with a vampire!)

Vampires by John Steakley (the did already make a movie of this book though)

Eternal Vigilance series by Gabriel Faust (this is a really unusual mix of cyberpunk/vampire, and is written so beautifully)

 

 

Date Posted: 1/7/2010 10:41 AM ET
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I REALLY want to see "Daybreakers" too! Im crossing my fingers that our theater has a showing while school is in session!

Date Posted: 1/8/2010 1:40 AM ET
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Two words: Lost Boys

Date Posted: 1/14/2010 6:42 PM ET
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Yep, I agree with everything you guys have said.  I'm a fan of the original blood-sucking demons based loosely off of ancient legend and Victorian rumors about Vlad the Impaler and Countess Bathory.  That said, I'm ok with humorous vamps from time to time, like Christopher Moore's "Bloodsucking Fiends" and "You Suck" soon to be followed by "Bite Me".  Also David Sosnowski's Vamped. 

Date Posted: 1/15/2010 6:46 PM ET
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Twilight is crap. HORRIBLE writing. Definitely needs to go away now!

Daybreakers was a great movie, but I hated the ending.

Date Posted: 9/1/2010 11:13 AM ET
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I agree with all of you guys about Twilight. I never read the series because I knew what it was about. All of the girls I work with have read them and loved them. I just know that the view on vampire life is completely ridiculous. I do love the Sookie Stackhouse series. Charlaine Harris has a good way of combining everything together. Her writing gives you lust and gore.

Date Posted: 9/1/2010 12:32 PM ET
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Other than Richard Matheson's ' I am Legend' and Stephen King's 'Salem's Lot', I didn't really like vampire stories until I read S.E. Hinson's ' Hawkes Harbor'.

In 'Hawkes Harbor' the psychological co-dependence of a vampire and its victim is described to the totally unexpected conclusion. It is a totally unusual and yet somehow disturbing concept and in my opinion a must-read for all vampire fans out there, who want to gain a different perspective.

Date Posted: 9/12/2010 8:20 PM ET
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I just finished Dan Simmons' Carrion Comfort. They're not typical vampires, not the blood-sucking kind, but crikey they are creepy as hell.Simmons' creatures are 'mind vampires' who feed off other people's thoughts and can control them and force them into horrifying acts of violence. Highly recommend.



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Date Posted: 11/14/2010 3:28 PM ET
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Carrion Comfort, Fevre Dream, Vampires (Steakley)- second those recommendations- all good un-romantic vamp books. Fevre Dream especially good- memorable.

Other bloodthirsty, or at least unromantic vamp books - Bite Club (vamps in W Hollywood, some M/M sex, humor, much fun), Also Nancy Collins, Sherry Gottlieb, Joseph Curtin, Patricia Cacek (Night Prayers), Mick Farren, Kim Newman (Anno Dracula is fabulous- Dracula marries Queen Victoria and creates thousands of vamps),

Date Posted: 11/14/2010 5:58 PM ET
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Hello all!

I'm new to PBS and to it's forums. I was just going to create a thread asking for suggestions for "non-Twilight/romance" vampire books......thankfully I saw this thread. I like the more "evil" books. People turning, etc, etc.

I've read The Strain and I really enjoyed it even without the "normal" fangs. (I'm a sucker for the fangs...pun kinda intended.)

Salem's Lot is a classic and is one of the first novels that I loved when I was a kid. I'm a fan of the Sookie series.

I'll be sure to check out the suggestions on here and I'd love to read more of them.

thanks.