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Subject: Condition Notes--Question on rare/ limited books
Date Posted: 6/7/2011 1:08 PM ET
Member Since: 5/29/2011
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Hello all,

A friend is looking at joining PBS and asked a valid question. She enjoys trading a very specific type of book  that are normally very limited runs, 1st edition only and often are traded many times. These specific types of books can sometimes number a few hundred in existence and are not in "perfect" condition.  These books can be torn (but still totally readable) or stained but due to the limited availability most people are fine with accepting these books. 

While reading through the help documents and the forums, I noticed there is no place to actually post condition notes on a book.  I understand that is mainly because of the requirements of the overall standards of the book.  Which leads me to asking her question on the forum since joining may not work for her.

Here is her question; since these books are so rare, would posting them be against the rules since she can't explain the condition?  Would an email explaining the condition on these very specific books be permissible and allow someone to cancel if they don't like the information?  Of course other books, ex-library or in regular condition and more of a mass market would be of course posted as the rules normally state. 

Thank you.

Date Posted: 6/7/2011 1:11 PM ET
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I don't think this is the forum for her.  All books posted on PBS have to meet the required conditions.   With the FIFO system there is no way to add notes to "your copy of the book. 

Date Posted: 6/7/2011 1:15 PM ET
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Though books don't have to be "perfect" to be posted here, all books posted to the system must meet the system requirements. Torn and stained books do not meet the sites requirements so it would be against the rules to post them. It is not acceptable to post them anyway and PM a member about the problems (writing/highlighting under the textbook rule or cookbooks with staining are the only exceptions to this rule). But.. Damaged books can be offered in the Book Bazaar for credits as long as the damage is described and the swapping is done outside the system (the book should not be posted to the person even if it the damage is agreed upon).

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Date Posted: 6/7/2011 1:36 PM ET
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As Melanie said above, those books cannot be posted here at PBS.  All posted books must meet postability criteria.

But they can be offered for credit in a private transaction, in a discussion forum such as the Book Bazaar.  As long as the damage is clearly stated, and the Requestor agrees to the listed damage that was stated before they make the request, the book can be swapped for a credit.  However, note that one cannot ask for more than one credit for any bound book, no matter how rare or limited, nor can a member ask for bidding to give to the highest offer.

Date Posted: 6/7/2011 1:45 PM ET
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Like Lynn, I wonder if this is the best venue for your friend.  If her books are rare and valuable, she may not be offered the same books in return...and thus be frustrated.  I'd definately recommend additional research before jumping in, to see if your friend is a good match for what PBS offers.

BTW - a bit curious about what she's reading?  If they are frequently traded, that would seem to indicate an existing trade forum somewhere?

FYI - PBS postability guidelines Book Condition Criteria for 'Swappability' at PBS

Last Edited on: 6/7/11 1:48 PM ET - Total times edited: 1
Date Posted: 6/7/2011 3:27 PM ET
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Thank you for the information I will share it with my friend.  The books while rare are not considered valuable by any stretch of the imagination.  She is not worried about getting something in return, I know a rare bird these days, instead wants to share these books with others who also want to read them.  These books focus on survivor stories and while not unique are hard to find (hence rare) and limited in number published.     She does belong to other book swamping sites but as we all are is always looking to expanded her library and share with others of similar interests.  I guess the point is what someone might consider acceptable others would not even when following the guidelines  cool

Date Posted: 6/7/2011 4:56 PM ET
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Why not put them on the book bazaar for her? Describe the issues.

And sadly tears are not something you can really mistake or overlook, like wavy pages might be poor quality paper not water damage or writing on the first page.