Skip to main content
PBS logo
 
 

Discussion Forums - Questions about PaperBackSwap Questions about PaperBackSwap

Topic: If I damage the book because of the way it is wrapped is that a RWAP?

Club rule - Please, if you cannot be courteous and respectful, do not post in this forum.
  Unlock Forum posting with Annual Membership.
Generic Profile avatar
Member of the Month medalFriend of PBS-Silver medal
Subject: If I damage the book because of the way it is wrapped is that a RWAP?
Date Posted: 8/12/2010 5:46 PM ET
Member Since: 8/9/2005
Posts: 20,024
Back To Top

Ok so I got a book today that was wrapped in nothing but cling wrap and tape. I didn't actually damage it but I almost did. To get it open I had to find a weak point on the side of book and shove the blade of my pocket knife into it. I thought I was doing that on the side of the book where the pages are open but I was actually a frog hair away from the spine. So for future reference if I damaged it myself would that have been a rwap offense because the only way to open it resulted in damaging it?

Oh and mummified in tape books don't do that when they are wrapped in paper. The paper gives you room to slip scissors in somewhere the plastic wrap makes an extremely tight seal.

Grnemae avatar
Standard Member medalGame Moderator medalPrintable Postage medal
Date Posted: 8/12/2010 5:52 PM ET
Member Since: 9/13/2006
Posts: 42,475
Back To Top

I also damaged a book today in the process of opening it.  Mine was mummiffied so tightly, in some type of paper that did not have the small amount of give that normal paper has, that there was no room for the blade of my knife and I cut the front cover and several pages in the process. 



Last Edited on: 8/13/10 12:10 AM ET - Total times edited: 1
melanied avatar
Standard Member medalMember of the Month medalBook Cover Image Group medalBook Data Correction Group medalTour Guide Leader medalBook Bazaar Coordinator medal
Date Posted: 8/12/2010 6:42 PM ET
Member Since: 8/16/2007
Posts: 15,234
Back To Top

The only instance mentioned in the Help Center is when the book is rendered unpostable due to the wrapper being taped to the book.  Most wrap jobs can be opened without damage with patience and extreme care. If a book takes too much work, send a polite note to the sender that it was hard to get into and suggest ways to leave a way for people to get into it.

xengab avatar
Date Posted: 8/12/2010 6:43 PM ET
Member Since: 10/13/2007
Posts: 36,445
Back To Top

Not as its not the sender who damaged the book.  I am no fan of mummified books either :(

amethyst8245 avatar
Limited Member medal
Date Posted: 8/12/2010 7:26 PM ET
Member Since: 5/9/2010
Posts: 763
Back To Top

I'd rather get a mummified book than one that is falling out of the packing because of poor wrapping or improper wrapping materials.  Like one of the previous responders stated, if you take time and care opening the package/envelope, you shouldn't cause any damage.

 

edited for typo



Last Edited on: 8/12/10 7:28 PM ET - Total times edited: 1
Generic Profile avatar
Member of the Month medalFriend of PBS-Silver medal
Date Posted: 8/12/2010 7:38 PM ET
Member Since: 8/9/2005
Posts: 20,024
Back To Top

I used to say that about mummified books but this one was litterally wrapped so tight (probably because the film was sticking to the book) that I couldn't get my scissors in it to cut. I had to use my pocket knife and shove it basically between the pages.

ETA again I didn't actually damage the book but I very easily could have.



Last Edited on: 8/12/10 7:38 PM ET - Total times edited: 1
starvinArtist avatar
Standard Member medal
Subject: solve the problem
Date Posted: 8/12/2010 8:53 PM ET
Member Since: 2/26/2009
Posts: 45,306
Back To Top

Use a seam ripper.  Very easy to use with no damage to books even when mummified.  And when it gets sticky, clean with a baby wipe/cottenelle wipe.

597abe4c172c0822  

c479b6cb209cbaa2

sarap avatar
Member of the Month medalFriend of PBS-Silver medal
Date Posted: 8/12/2010 9:52 PM ET
Member Since: 1/17/2009
Posts: 12,214
Back To Top

The way I answer these questions in my mind is think to myself, what would I do if I received that message?

And in the case of someone giving me a RWAP because THEY damaged the book ... I would seriously think to myself "WTF?". Before I reported them to TPTB.

So, I have to answer, nope, I don't think that its a RWAP situation.

Generic Profile avatar
Member of the Month medalFriend of PBS-Silver medal
Date Posted: 8/12/2010 10:37 PM ET
Member Since: 8/9/2005
Posts: 20,024
Back To Top

Ok thanks y'all. I have never had a book I couldn't get open without hurting but this was really close. I think maybe the plastic melted a little or ..... something. Or maybe it had something to do with taping over the plastic. Either way no harm done and I pmed the sender to let them know the book was like Ft. Knox.

orchid7 avatar
Standard Member medalFriend of PBS-Silver medal
Date Posted: 8/12/2010 10:42 PM ET
Member Since: 5/16/2009
Posts: 9,057
Back To Top

I think the only way you can mark something RWAP due to the wrapping is if they actually tape something onto the book, or use the "Press & Seal" cling wrap that gets glue on the cover. 

psychobabbler avatar
Friend of PBS-Silver medal
Date Posted: 8/13/2010 6:56 AM ET
Member Since: 8/25/2007
Posts: 13,134
Back To Top

I use an exacto knife to open my books.  It's much easier to wield than scissors when trying to open those tightly wrapped with 15 lbs of tape books, and I've yet to damage one while opening (even the one that took about 5 minutes to open.  No kidding).

thameslink avatar
Friend of PBS-Double Diamond medal
Date Posted: 8/13/2010 10:18 AM ET
Member Since: 2/13/2007
Posts: 2,279
Back To Top

I am with Jennifer V. -- I would much rather get a mummified book and take my time opening it than one loosely wrapped in shredded newspaper and torn masking tape that got to me only because the gods were smiling!

MartieKr avatar
Standard Member medalFriend of PBS-Silver medalPrintable Postage medal
Date Posted: 8/14/2010 1:40 PM ET
Member Since: 4/22/2005
Posts: 7,373
Back To Top

Not me! I hate those mummified packages. I've spent up to 20 minutes on some trying to get them open and always damage some part of the book by either scratching the cover with the seam ripper, razor blade, scissors, or whatever I'm using, or nicking the edge of the pages. I've lost count of how many WL books I couldn't repost because of the massive, unnecessary tape that makes it next to impossible to open without damage. 'Course I see I'm in the minority and that's okay.

Grnemae avatar
Standard Member medalGame Moderator medalPrintable Postage medal
Date Posted: 8/14/2010 1:56 PM ET
Member Since: 9/13/2006
Posts: 42,475
Back To Top

I hate those mummified packages

I am with you Mary - packages can be adequately taped and yet still leave a place to insert the blade of a knife so the package can be opened without damaging the book.