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Subject: Dust Jackets
Date Posted: 11/4/2007 10:27 AM ET
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I know that the rules state that a hardcover doesn't have to have its dustjacket.  What if you have it, but it's in less than stellar condition, but the book itself is in completely postable condition?  Would it be better to leave the dustjacket off or to leave it on, even though with it on, it may look like it's in poor shape?

Thanks!

Date Posted: 11/4/2007 10:29 AM ET
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Good question.  If it has liquid damage, I suggest you leave it off or someone will want their credit back (even if the book is fine). I wonder the same thing.  If in doubt, I don't send it.

Date Posted: 11/4/2007 10:34 AM ET
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That's what I was thinking.  I have a few books where the book itself is in excellent condition, but the dustjacket is pretty grody (that's what they're for, right?  To keep the book itself from getting nasty!).  I don't want to be put on a "bad" list because someone doesn't like the condition of the dustjacket, even when the book is fine.

Also, I have a question about a "cleaved" pb spine.  Does that mean just the normal wear (where you can see that the book has been opened, especially on larger books), or that it's actually broken through/nearly broken through to the actual pages, like where you can see the glue?

Honestly, I'm not looking to get away with anything, I just want to make sure I'm clear on the rules!  I really love this place and I want to make sure I don't do anything to irritate any of the other members.

Date Posted: 11/4/2007 10:46 AM ET
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Creased spines are OK. It's normal on PBs. A Cleaved spine is a broken book. LOL  Some of that can be fixed with a bit of glue depending on how bad it is. A HB can open to certain pages of the book and that's ok.

I'm kind of ambivalent about the dust jackets on HBs.  I would prefer to have it, but then again, I don't want it if it's nasty. I usually removed the dust jacket on HBs when I read them. My biggest pet peave is tape on the books. You don't know it's taped until it's too late. I got a HB a while ago(without dust jacket) and the sender taped to the book. It peeled off the paper on the book. It's still more than readable but I don't think I'll be reposting it.

Date Posted: 11/4/2007 11:25 AM ET
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I think since the dust jacket is not required, its condition doesn't matter--unless the requestor has Dust Jacket conditions. Then it should be in good condition.
Date Posted: 11/4/2007 11:34 AM ET
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I don't care if the dust jacket is in bad condition. I'd rather have it than not have it even if it is really beat up. And technically, requesters can't give you a bad report for a poor dust jacket, since they aren't required at all.

Date Posted: 11/4/2007 12:33 PM ET
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When I have a questionable dust jacket, but completely postable book I usually PM the other member to explain the DJ conditions and see if they want me to include it or not.  If I don't hear back from them, I don't include it.  I have no desire to get "dinged" because a member doesn't like the condition of the DJ and therefore thinks the book wasn't in postable condition, when if I had never sent the DJ in the first place I would still be operating within the posting guidelines.

Date Posted: 11/4/2007 2:28 PM ET
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Great question, Alise.  I had been wondering the same thing.  I have a book that's in great condition, but I used the dust jacket as a coaster for my drink so it is a little warped.  Since the jacket wasn't on the book at the time, it doesn't affect the book.  I figured I would do what Holly suggested and just PM the member and explain the condition of the dust jacket.  Like you, I don't want to get a bad report for water damage since it doesn't affect the book. 

L. G. (L)
Date Posted: 11/4/2007 2:42 PM ET
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I'd rather have a grody DJ than none at all.  I'd like it if people wiped them off a bit, though, if they have smuts on them.

Date Posted: 11/4/2007 3:30 PM ET
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I, also would rather have the dj, even if its falling apart, then none at all.  I like the look of the DJ  betther than just the black (or whatever color) spine with gold lettering when looking at the bookshelf--and I find its easier to remember the book (if someone asks) when looking at the DJ than just a plain HC w/out the DJ

Date Posted: 11/4/2007 6:10 PM ET
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I would want the dustjacket!  Even if it was a bit tore up an groady I'd still want it.  I'd be sad to find out the book I got without a dustjacket had it thrown away before sending because to me any dustjacket is better than none (though by site rules you don't have to have one). 

I can understand worry over thinking a little water damage on the dustjacket might equal in the receivers mind as damage to the book itself (not always the case) and freak out.  Sometimes a dustjacket gets damaged completely independant of the book.  If you are overly concerned about that PM them to make sure they know that while the dustjacket has seen better days the book is completey undamaged.

Date Posted: 11/4/2007 8:21 PM ET
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I'd send it without, but that's just my opinion.

Date Posted: 11/5/2007 4:22 AM ET
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To save on the problem of them not responding in time for your deadline, and to not have to be concerned about the ding for the unknowing new person that doesn't know DJs are not required, I PM the person with something like:

"Hi, The hardcover you ordered does have a DJ, but it is in pretty sad shape. Since they are not required unless in requestor's conditions, and yours didn't state otherwise, I'm going to include it in case you are like me, and would rather have the sad shape to know what it is supposed to look like than to have nothing. If you aren't interested in it after it arrives, you can always throw it away, but I always include them just in case. If you get this in time, and would rather I throw it away rather than include it, feel free to let me know."

(In one case, I mentioned that the DJ got wet, but not too worry, the book did not)