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Subject: E-books
Date Posted: 12/29/2007 10:54 PM ET
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I've noticed some of the members of this board get electonic books.  I've never tried them so I was wondering how yall read them? Do you print them out? Have one of those fancy e-readers? Read them right from the computer? Pros and cons?

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Date Posted: 12/30/2007 1:48 AM ET
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Most are set up so you can't print them.  It would be too easy to share them that way. I tried emailing some to somone today and it came up with a publishers warning that it was not able to be emailed.  Although I was able to do one and someone emailed me some. You can save them to a CD.  I just download them onto AdobeAcrobat reader.  Or microsoft reader. Make sure you save it though.  I can't find one and I think it's because I must have just opened it and not saved it. Then you just read it on the computer. I imagine you could save it to a PDA program as well.

Date Posted: 12/30/2007 8:44 AM ET
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I used to read them on my computer with MS Lit, but I eventually bought a reader from ebookwise. I really like it. The only downfall is that it doesn't take books in pdf format.

Date Posted: 12/30/2007 1:36 PM ET
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I've been downloading the free ones this week from the eHarlequin site since someone posted about it in the What We're Reading this week thread.


I just got a new computer, I was trying to save them in PDF format since I know Adobe Acrobat Reader was on this machine but it prompted me to download Adobe Digital Editions for the eBooks.  They're still in PDF format.

I haven't had a chance to read them yet, just thought I'd try them since they're free.

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Date Posted: 12/31/2007 10:47 AM ET
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I read mine on my handheld, can read in comfort anywhere.  You can read them on your PC, that's how I started with them, but a reader or handheld will be more comfortable than sitting at your PC for too long.  Some people like to read them on their laptops as they can sit in a comfy chair and prop it up.  You can download any of the Readers onto your PC if you want to try some, especially when you get them for free, like Eharlequin this week through tomorrow.

I think printing them out takes away any cost savings of ebook vs. print - besides paper, more your printer ink cartridge usage, which is very expensive when you think about it.  Me, I'd probably buy the print book rather than printing out an ebook.


Date Posted: 12/31/2007 12:21 PM ET
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I'm also downloading the eharlequin.com freebies.  It's my first time looking at e-books and it seems like I could get easily hooked.  I have a PowerBook that will be giving up the ghost soon and I'm thinking of getting one of these to double as an e-reader:


It's only 2 lbs. and about the size of a trade paperback!



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Date Posted: 12/31/2007 1:52 PM ET
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I have been wondering about e-books too. I think I may try a free eharlequin book and see how it goes. I just got a new computer this year, my old one was 8yrs old, so now I have enough memory and the right programs to try these things. Unfortunately there's no high-speed internet access available where I live. Anyone know if that makes a big difference with e-books?

Date Posted: 12/31/2007 8:57 PM ET
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Jennifer, that'd make a difference with downloading them but once you've got them on your computer, they're yours.

Just put it on download and let it sit.  I know the eHarlequin ones have been downloading almost instantly but I'm on a DSL connection.

Go and try downloading one of the free ones, that'd give you an idea how long it'd take.

Date Posted: 12/31/2007 10:13 PM ET
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I have a cable modem, too, so can't say how long to download, but try the free one like Jennfer says and get an idea.  Go do something else while it downloads, lol.  Once you get it on your PC, the time is no longer a factor.  If you have a comfortable chair by your PC, it's not bad reading on the PC every now and then. 


Jennifer, I know nothing about that piece of equipment, but here's a bit from a customer review at Amazon:

"The Linux OS (tailored Xandros) is extremely limited. The ability to add software is limited to a rudimentary software management application which only connects to the ASUS eee repository, which apparently has no software in it. "

You might want to read more of those 3 star and less reviews to be sure it suits your needs.  The above makes me wonder if you will be able to download some or any of the reader software need to read whatever ebook format you purchase, and I a comment that it's not really  Windows XP operating system, but a downscaled similar-type version.  Right now for about $200-225 more you can get a Dell laptop with much more capability.

Google on whatever you are thinking about buying for customer/site reviews to read pros/cons to help decide what would be good for you.  Even handhelds/pdas or dedicated ebook readers, I'd google on.  Some are compatible with more formats than others.  Some restrict you to buying only ebooks from their vendors/partners, which limits your getting the best deal comparision shopping, or sometimes inventory selection.  A lot of people buy the ebookwise ebook reader mainly because of cost vs. many handhelds (but those can be used for more than reading ebooks and might be worth the extra money depending on your personal needs).  I don't like being so restricted (like with the Sony, ebookwise) or even the Amazon Kindle, as you have to buy from Amazon only to read them at whatever their price is.

These free books, even purchase of one or two that can be read on your PC are a good way to get an idea if you would like reading ebooks, then you need to decide if you'd be okay reading on a smaller screen (reader or  handheld).  I got used to reading on my smaller handheld device pretty quickly, though I don't think I'd care to read them on a cell phone, the next thing, with an even smaller screen, lol.

The ebooks sure do save me a lot of storage space in a smaller apartment vs. tripping over piles of books, lol.  Another thing I like is being able to quickly use a search option for a reference when talking about a book with friends. 

Date Posted: 12/31/2007 10:40 PM ET
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I used to buy a lot from eReader.com before I got so heavily into buying used books.  Not an excessive amount of savings there, but if you're buying at roughly $5 per book, and not paying shipping from ebay or Amazon, plus you don't need shelves...  In the end though, I found I was just old-fashioned enough that I really like having the books.  I don't know what that is, tangible goods or something, or maybe I'm just sentimental about books.  I know one has to really be falling apart for me to throw it away.  Anyway, eReader has a free version of their reader that you download when you buy ebooks.  It's a single page, and looks like an actual book page, or you can buy a version that is two page and looks just like an open book.  I haven't bought any in years and never tried to copy the ones I have, but there are definite perks.  It just doesn't appeal much to me.  On the downside, not everyone I read publishes in ebook format.  In fact, at least half of my current keepers aren't available in ebooks.

Date Posted: 1/2/2008 2:36 PM ET
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I went for the ebook thing for a while The novelty of it and the instant ability to read the book w/o having to buy it or wait for it to be shipped.  But I don't have a laptop and it got uncomfortable sitting in the computer chair to read. I like being able to carry a book around and lay on the couch, the bed or take it in the tub with me.  Plus if it's not a keeper you can sell it to a UBS or trade it on PBS for another book. But I still occassionally order an ebook.  Usually if it's an addition to a series I've already started in ebook form.

Date Posted: 1/2/2008 7:15 PM ET
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I have the Sony reader, which I love.  Since I travel on business a bit, it really helps to not lug around a bunch of books.

Amazon has some free and cheap downloadable books.  I just downloaded a free short book - 11 pages - to see how PDF would work on my reader (too small).  I was able to cut and paste it into Word, so that was a good way to experiment with formats without costing anything.

Subject: ebooks
Date Posted: 1/4/2008 10:05 PM ET
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I just discovered this week that my Palm Z22 will read ebooks, I have owned it for 2 years now, so color me clueless!  I have downloaded a couple of eReader books and am enjoying the conveninence.  I missed out on the eharlequin offer, does anyone have them and would they be willing to attept to e-mail them to me (since they were free)?

The eReader software comes with the Palm Z22 (for those of you who have this device) and it is preloaded with several books and a dictionary.  I have discovered that mobipocket works well for those books not in ereader format.  Mobipocket is a free download and will help with converting ebooks so they can be read on either my Palm or my PC (you just need to download the PC version to your computer and the Palm version to your PDA).  I have also discovered that one of the libraries in my area offers ebooks through a mobipocket download.

So now I have several books in eReader and several books in Mobipocket just waiting on my PDA for anytime I am bored.  I just dare the doctor's office to keep me waiting!


PS  Anyone have opinions on the ethical issues regarding swapping eBooks?  Is it okay to pass them along/swap them?  What if you delete your copy when sharing, does that make it more like a paperback? 


Date Posted: 1/5/2008 12:35 AM ET
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I like Mobipocket, my second favorite reader after MS Reader.

You won't be able to get those free Harlequins as they are coded to the buyer, tried it already with a friend who missed one.  Though some secured pdf books can be opened in Mobi, those won't.  You aren't supposed to share ebooks, even if you delete your copy, if  you read the copyright in them.  Fictionwise.com offers a few books with a 100% rebate - though you have to pay with a credit card, then get the rebate in their micropay account, which you then use to buy another book.