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Subject: My first RWAP
Date Posted: 4/15/2011 8:33 PM ET
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I suppose it had to happen sooner or later. After 241 completed transactions, I received my first "unpostable" book - water damaged, and I had to hit the RWAP button for the first time. I really didn't want to, but, recalled reading 'if you don't RWP unpostables, members will keep doing it " (or, words to that effect).

Date Posted: 4/15/2011 8:51 PM ET
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I know how you feel.  I've had 3 RWAPs this week.  I don't like confrontation, so it's not something I have looked forward to doing.

Date Posted: 4/16/2011 3:56 PM ET
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After the first couple times having to do it, it becomes a bit easier. It's never something to look forward to though. I still dread the whole process from the moment I open a package and find the book in an unpostable condition, even though all but one or two RWAPs I've had have been very civil and as pleasant to deal with as they could be under the circumstances. I just naturally hate confrontation, but I bite the bullet and deal with it when I have to, since I do believe that members have a responsibility to help maintain the standards of PBS by reporting it when they get a book that doesn't meet them. Otherwise, those standards will be allowed to let slide, and nobody wants that.

I always do wonder about the luck some members have though, to receive hundreds of books without getting a single problem one. I wonder what the secret is. I usually have a couple problem books or so for every hundred I receive, though that number seems to have dropped since my current RCs went active. Still, that's a very low overall percentage, so I don't feel troubled by it at all. I don't know if it's all just luck, or if the genres a person reads has something to do with it, or what. I know most of my problem books I receive seem to be non-fiction (sent with highlighting/writing without notifying me) or fairly highly wishlisted (can have stains, water damage, or whatever, almost as if some members feel the rules don't apply if a book has a good-sized wishlist).

mistie -
Date Posted: 4/16/2011 5:42 PM ET
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Thanks Mindy & Tiffany, it makes me think about my personlity when I receive an unpostable, yet, I feel almost guilty RWAP'ing it. 

This one has a happy enough ending. I didn't request my credit back, but the sender refunded it anyway - commented that that way the way the book was received, they didn't really notice any water damage - & that in the future they will have to more particular with the books they receive. I refuse to feel guilty about it - "I do believe that members have a responsibility to help maintain the standards of PBS by reporting it when they get a book that doesn't meet them". I'm not going to be inspected books I receive with a microscope looking to RWAP - but, if I receive a fairly obvious unpostable, I'm not going to avoid the issue either.

Date Posted: 4/17/2011 1:27 AM ET
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Could someone enlighten me as to what RWAP and RC mean?  Thanks!

Date Posted: 4/17/2011 1:55 AM ET
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RWAP -- received with a problem

RC -- requestor condition

You may find this useful from the Help Center:

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  • ARC = Advanced Reader Copy (aka Uncorrected Proof, Review Copy); a preview copy of a book sent to reviewers in advance of a book's release; not the final copy of a book, and not permitted for swapping at PBS.
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Date Posted: 4/17/2011 3:46 PM ET
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Wow, thank you so much!  I feel informed and "in the loop" now!  Thanks!

Date Posted: 4/17/2011 5:15 PM ET
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I still feel quilty when I mark one RWP too. I'm not a picky person. I let a lot of books that I personally would not have posted slide because they're kind of in a gray area. But some just obviously should not have been posted and those I do complain about.

Date Posted: 4/21/2011 3:43 PM ET
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I'm so glad to see this topic. I just got a book today that has water damage to the back cover and about the last 50 pages. I came here to double check that water damage was a no-no, and feel bad about marking it RWAP, but maybe the sender didn't know, so letting them know might actually be a help to them. I tried to justify in my mind, oh, the damage isn't that bad, but the back of the book is pretty warped, so I don't want to send it on like that. *sigh*

Date Posted: 4/21/2011 4:54 PM ET
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Lise- Water damage is a big no no so mark it RWAP, since it can't be reposted by you. I would also take a photo of the book and the packaging so that if they say it was fine when the book left them, you can show that the package didn't have any water damage just the book which means it was like that when it went into the packing.

Date Posted: 4/21/2011 9:10 PM ET
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I am not convinced that packaging that gets wet and then dries out will always show signs of water damage. Especially if it has a lot of tape on it, which would prevent the paper from stretching and wrinkling.

Date Posted: 4/22/2011 10:44 AM ET
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Margaret--I did. I got a PM back from the sender saying that he thought it was OK because the book was still readable, so I explained that while it is readable, the guidelines clearly state *no* water damage, and I'm not going to send it on.