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Subject: Frustrating forum posts
Date Posted: 2/3/2010 11:08 PM ET
Member Since: 4/28/2009
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I'm relatively new to PBS (less than a year, only about 30 transactions)  and VERY new to posting in forums (230 since Sept '09).

I seem to "miss" a lot of the discussion posts even though I read from the top down, starting with the OP.  Two things happen:  1)

either it takes me so long to post my answer that half a dozen more people respond since I read "last post" and someone who submitted

just before me ends up saying almost exactly what I said so I sound like an idiot repeating the previous poster or 2)  I read what I think are

all the posts, it gives me the "post reply" box and I answer, then discover there are several more pages of responses I never saw and the

topic has already been talked to death!       Do you experienced posters hate us newbies for this or do you "consider the source"?  Is there a

way to see how many pages are already written before I post?  I do look at # of responses and # of views and try not to respond if there are

plenty of smart answers already posted so "mea culpa, mea culpa, mea culpa".

Date Posted: 2/3/2010 11:13 PM ET
Member Since: 1/30/2009
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I think it's just the sort of thing you have to develop a "feel" for.  I know that's not the most super helpful response, but like anything you are a bit new at, you have to get a feel for the way things work - and like anything else, the more you do it the more comfortable you will get.

On the top of each thread there is a little scroll down box that will tell you how many pages the thread runs.  Also - on the main forum page you can see how many replies there are for each topic.

Date Posted: 2/3/2010 11:28 PM ET
Member Since: 8/16/2007
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One hint I can give you is to not go by the next page buttons at the bottom of the screen, scroll back up to the top. For some reason the next page button isn't always at the bottom and it looks like that means its the last page but its not.

Date Posted: 2/3/2010 11:50 PM ET
Member Since: 1/17/2010
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I am new here also but the response, treatment of "older" members has, for the most part, been very helpful and supportive.  There are always some who may make you feel _______ (fill in the blank) and you just have to learn to ignore them.

I look at the side where it shows how many pages to see how much discussion there is on a topic.  I think it is beside the tab that says go to last post  where you can see how many pages there are.  As for feeling as if you "sound like an idiot", i think it can be helpful to see that others have the same opinion or provide advice that is similar to others, it is just reaffirming those suggestions so that the OP may feel more informed, or supported.

An example could be the OP wondering if they were being too sensitive about the attitude of the sender when they had to return their book.  By reading the statement of several telling her that no, the person was being rude, it provides extra support in several different ways. 

And any response, no matter how similar, will have some differences and that slight difference could provide the help, support, information that is needed.

My suggestion is as was earlier suggested, the more you do something, the better you get at it, or feel comfortable and develop the feel that provides guidance in responding in the manner you want to.

I don't know if my answer is any help, but you are not alone in feeling unsure at times in what to do, when to do it, how to do it and should you do it. 

 

Janette

 

Date Posted: 2/4/2010 7:24 AM ET
Member Since: 8/23/2007
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Many times you'll see even several of basically the same response coming from even long time members.  If you look at the time stamp you can see that they were all probably typing and posting at the same time.  I wouldn't worry about it.

Date Posted: 2/4/2010 9:55 AM ET
Member Since: 7/23/2006
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I agree with Mary - I post the same thing other's do all the time :-b

And newbies are always welcome!!!  We need to hear from "fresh voices" - so post away!

Date Posted: 2/4/2010 10:03 AM ET
Member Since: 8/10/2009
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Don't worry just say whatever you feel like adding. I sure don't mind all the different and similar takes on an issue. Just relax and enjoy yourself.  I've had the page thing happen to me so many times.  As sometimes several people are typing a response at the same time.  Its all good.

Date Posted: 2/4/2010 10:30 AM ET
Member Since: 12/19/2007
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Sometimes I want to respond to the OP (original poster) without reading all the other posts.  In that case I usually begin my own post with "I didn't read any of the other responses but...."

Date Posted: 2/4/2010 10:59 AM ET
Member Since: 3/27/2009
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Jeanne,

I've done all the posting gaffes that you mentioned.

Here I am at the bottom of your thread and will probably repeat what's already been said above.

So + 1 to what they've said. Whatever they said, cuz I didn't read but one or two responses.

I just want to add that I pray TPTB will one day get the idea that numbered posts is a swell idea. It's such a little detail, but It'd help greatly.

Ms K. (MsK) -
Date Posted: 2/4/2010 11:32 AM ET
Member Since: 10/1/2005
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There are a few posters who have a style of writing that I don't really "like"....


so I have "ignored this member" and it makes things much more pleasant.
 

It is especially nice when I read responses to those posters & realize that I wasn't the only one who didn't appreciate their style of writing.

and I would never be offended if someone chose to "ignore THIS member"!! (meaning me) ;-)

Date Posted: 2/4/2010 12:40 PM ET
Member Since: 11/5/2009
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I find it frustrating too.  I wish that they would sort their forum posts with the most recent posts at the top, but keeping the original post at the top.  That's how a lot of blog sites do it.  To me it makes reading the replies much easier because you pick up where the thread is currently.

In the meantime, I just click on the "go to the last post" button and read up rather than down.

Date Posted: 2/4/2010 1:27 PM ET
Member Since: 8/9/2007
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A lot of us skim through the threads to see if the question has been adequately answered, and if it has, we often don't add our own response, just so the OP or the thread doesn't get inundated with info & complicated to follow.  Often you'll see "ditto" or agreement posts to some response that has already been posted, just so the OPs will see that there seems to be a consensus here on how to handle certain things.  We do miss things on longer threads just like anyone though, or maybe we'll think of something that should be added.  "Newbies", IMO, are the heart of the help forum.  They're who the rest of us make the effort to check in & see if we can help out for.  It'd be a pretty boring forum without you, so don't ever feel silly for asking:P

Date Posted: 2/4/2010 1:44 PM ET
Member Since: 2/15/2006
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Jeanne, I have done many of those things myself. I don't think you should feel badly about it at all. I do have to say I wish I could read all the posts on one page but understand why I can't but I would hate to read them newest first. I much prefer to read them in the order they were posted. To do so otherwise feels to me like skipping ahead to read the end of the book first. (I know that not everyone agrees and that's ok too)

susan/vt

Sianeka - ,
Date Posted: 2/4/2010 2:11 PM ET
Member Since: 2/8/2007
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I agree with the consensus above, that many of us post the same information worded slightly differently, and that difference may be just the thing the OP needs!  Also, it often is helpful and gives a sense of support when the same idea is seconded or agreed with several times.  We've all posted something that by the time it gets added, several others with quicker fingers have already gotten through with their responses!

Count me in as one of the supporters of the current format of posts displayed in the order they were posted, rather than newest listed first.  I personally -like- clicking on a topic and watching the responses unfold.  It is easy enough if you are not a fan of this to click on the Go to Last Post button and read them backwards if desired.  But I would not like starting the story at the end for a default!!!!  That's just me...

Date Posted: 2/4/2010 5:08 PM ET
Member Since: 10/22/2009
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I also prefer the newest posts at the bottom as it is now.  I do wish the forums here were like some of the other forums I visit where when I click on a topic it'll take me to the first unread (by me) post.

Date Posted: 2/4/2010 7:21 PM ET
Member Since: 6/26/2006
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Jeanne, this is just a general forum tip.  It looks like you are typing to the end of the text box and hitting "return" to get to a new line.  You don't need to do this.  Believe it or not, it makes your text a little harder to read!

 

Kind of like

you wrote a sentence

like this.

 

PBS will wrap your texts for you, so you can take a break on the return key!!

Date Posted: 2/4/2010 8:08 PM ET
Member Since: 4/25/2007
Posts: 11,555
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Jeanne, I think every one of us had done everything you mention.  It happens, don't worry about it!

Even if you're saying the same thing someone else has said, that's good.  Especially with someone asking a question.  If they're starting a thread, then they want opinions.  Even if they are all the same.

If you feel you can add something to a thread, then do so.  We all don't add to every discussion and I promise no one's paying attention to which threads anyone responds to and which they don't.

Date Posted: 2/4/2010 9:06 PM ET
Member Since: 11/11/2008
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I do wish the forums here were like some of the other forums I visit where when I click on a topic it'll take me to the first unread (by me) post.

+1

It would be soooo helpful!

Date Posted: 2/5/2010 9:19 AM ET
Member Since: 8/10/2005
Posts: 4,601
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As others have already said, not to worry! Chime in when you have time and/or are moved to do so. I have done the same thing (posting, only to hit send and find a couple of other responses there already--stating the same thing!) many times, especially if I'm at work and get interrupted in the middle of typing a reply. No big deal...everyone knows that happens.

I like the way the forums are set up, with posts listed in order that they're posted, but I also would like that feature that takes me to the first unread (by me) post. Taking me to the last post isn't helpful if there are 20 others above it that I haven't read.

Putting newest post at the top makes no sense to me at all...I hate forums and (email groups) that do that, because to me it's like reading a book back to front. I want to see the proper sequence!

Cheryl