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Subject: Guess it's my turn
Date Posted: 4/21/2011 7:58 PM ET
Member Since: 10/20/2009
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So, I posted here a few days ago- telling you about getting a book that was missing 32 pages in the middle.  Today, I started reading a new one that i received 2 weeks ago.  The cover ,edges and dust jacket were in great condition.  About 2 chapters into it- the pages had grease stains that had leaked through to the back side of each page. It looked like some previous reader had something on their fingers as they read.  The stains go on for 10 or so pages.  Of course, I didn't see them when marking the book "received".  Also today, I received a book  with a cracked spine and one page is almost out- only the top egde is still hooked.  So far, other pages look attached. I uderstand that some people post books without reading them, but aren't they still responsible for the condition?  I also know that it is my fault for not inspecting each and every page, but JEEZE.   I now have a stack of books that I won't re-post because of their condition.  I have not even marked the last book rwap because I keep thinking "it's just one loose page".  But, it's kind of turned into the Last Straw.  Someone talk me through this!!!!!  Thanks.

Date Posted: 4/21/2011 8:40 PM ET
Member Since: 2/21/2009
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I'm sorry you are experiencing the problem. It does seemingly go in spurts, and it sounds like you're due for a long problem-free spell!

I'm poor at doing it, but I do recommend going through the books well. I do a poor job (and often didn't do it at all), and while reading have run into an absolute ton of books that are unpostable. Staining seems to be the primary culprit - greasy stains, red koolaid (?) spatters, cheetos or something similar, etc. Oddly enough, in two weeks I received two books that seemed to have a red ink stain on two pages...and naturally, I missed them both until I read them.

Sometimes the problems truly are overlooked though as opposed to being sent regardless. When I had more $, I bought a lot of books to post - sometimes 50 or 60 at a time. Although I scanned them when I bought them, and looked through them when I listed them, I still occasionally found a problem when wrapping them, and admit to missing a couple as well. :-( Sometimes due to the lighting in the store and/or my house, it's too easy to miss a faint stain.


Date Posted: 4/21/2011 8:45 PM ET
Member Since: 10/20/2009
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SO...... would you rwap a book with one loose page?

Date Posted: 4/21/2011 9:05 PM ET
Member Since: 1/17/2009
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Yes, I have before, and would again RWAP a book with one loose page. It is a very clear rule that all pages must be attached to the book for it to be postable. And, I don't feel that pages falling out are an easily overlooked mistake. (Sometimes, if the thing that makes a book RWAP is truly so minor that I think it could be easily overlooked, then I might not RWAP, but loose pages are not one of those things).

On the other hand, if the loose page is a non-text page ... then the page can be missing completely and the book would still be postable. So, if it were me, I would not RWAP for that when the book is easy to repair by removing the page out completely.

 A red ink mark though ... I would consider that postable. I've seen books that have had random ink splotches on the pages (printer mistake) and I consider that postable as long as the book is completely readable.

As to any stain that can only be seen if you hold the book a certain way in the right lighting .... well, I don't get out any magnifying glasses or rulers to examine books. Coming in or going out. Maybe I'm wrong ... but I am not planning to change that at all. (Having said that, I do check my books over carefully before mailing ... but I am not going to go around looking for perfect lighting and/or rulers to do so).

Date Posted: 4/21/2011 9:21 PM ET
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Date Posted: 4/22/2011 10:58 AM ET
Member Since: 11/28/2009
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Sorry what happened to you!  In the first year I was a member, I received a book, and it was wrapped so nicely in plastic that I just left it that way til I read it.  What I discovered near the end of the book, was covering the last approx. 20 pages or so was a red wine stain!

I have learned that I throughly check the books when they arrive, you just never know what you will find.  

Ronda (RONDA) - ,
Date Posted: 4/22/2011 4:39 PM ET
Member Since: 3/3/2009
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if a problem is minor and i dont notice it in a short look at the book, I like to assume the person did not read it and didnt notice it. 

Any problem I can notice in the first minute, I think the sender should have noticed and yes I will RWAP.

I dont get too uptight about those minor ones that I didnt notice upon recieving but notice when reading, but I do try to make sure I seperate them as unpostables.  I do think that missing or duplicate pages would not be noticed unless i read the book.