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Subject: Hardcover Books without Dust
Date Posted: 3/3/2008 2:08 PM ET
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Date Posted: 3/3/2008 2:10 PM ET
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Im gonna guess you want to know if its ok to post a hardcover book without its dust jacket. It is ok. Some people have requestor conditions specifically asking for them but that would be the only time they are required.

Date Posted: 3/3/2008 2:11 PM ET
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Date Posted: 3/3/2008 2:12 PM ET
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Sorry about that...Not sure what I did, but posted too soon.

I sent a HB book without the dust jacket.  The person I sent it to made a comment that they wish they would have liked to have been notified.  I wanted to nicely send them a message the HB books are not required to have dust jackets and if they would like dust jackets they should add it to their requestors conditions.  How can I nicely word a message to them.  I'm in a cranky mood today (not because of this - just cause it's Monday!! )  : )

Would anyone have suggested wording to use?



Date Posted: 3/3/2008 2:15 PM ET
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You could say it just as you said it above. Dust jackets are not required by posting guidelines and if a person wants anything better than the guidelines it is their responsibility to say so in the form of requestor conditions. 

You can also quote from here Book Condition Guidelines

"cover" does not = dust jacket.  Hardcovers do not need to include their dust jackets to be swapped here.

Date Posted: 3/3/2008 3:09 PM ET
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Books without dust are preferable, try a Swiffer Duster they work great :)

Just say " Since dustjackets are not required on books posted to this site, you may want to add a Requester Condition stating that you want dust jackets on Hard Covers so that senders know your preferences".

Date Posted: 3/3/2008 3:26 PM ET
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Yes, and PLEASE don't start PMing people about it.

Because then they expect PMs about it, and if it's valid to post, I don't send PMs (and if it isn't, I don't post).  And it's annoying to get someone who has gotten used to getting PMs about allowed things who then gets snippy because I didn't notify them about something allowed.

Date Posted: 3/3/2008 3:31 PM ET
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Ditto what Kayote just said. I'll bet this person has received PM's asking "Do you want it without the DJ?" in the past, and assumed it would happen again.

A general note for those lurking on this thread: If your book meets PBS posting guidelines, DO NOT PM members about the condition of your book. It is the recipient's responsibility to include additional condition requests in the Requestor's Conditions.

And if it doesn't meet PBS guidelines... Offer it in the Book Bazaar. :)

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Date Posted: 3/3/2008 5:48 PM ET
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I would just nicely say that dust jackets are not required by PBS rules and that you are not required to send a PM warning that there is no dust jacket.  Remind them politely that if they had conditons requiring a dust jacket then you would have declined the request.  If they only want HB's with dust jackets then they need to have a condition.

Date Posted: 3/3/2008 6:16 PM ET
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Date Posted: 3/3/2008 6:42 PM ET
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Jan, while it is true that they can mark it RWP for anything they want, that does NOT mean I advocate PM'ng people about books that meet PBS guidelines. I absolutely agree with Kayote, that when people start getting PMs about things that are permitable, such as no dust jacket, 1" cover tears, opening to a same spot but with no separation of the binding, people come to expect these PMs and get nasty when people don't send them.

In other words, you would be starting a precident that is not required by PBS nor customary, that some will come to expect and retaliate anyway.