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Subject: How to you feel about ?
Date Posted: 6/27/2010 1:12 AM ET
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I'm hoping to post this only to find out if you agree or disagree with wether abortion should be a government issue and if people should be able to use it as a campaign tactic? I know everyone has different views on it but since it's a woman who has to carry the baby and then decide to keep it seek adoption ect I don't know if it should be anyone else business if they chose to terminate.Hoping to start an intelligent commentary?



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Date Posted: 6/28/2010 5:14 PM ET
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Put me solidly in the camp that it is no one else's business except the woman who is pregnant.  It should NOT be a political issue at all.  I understand that the father would have an opinion but in the end, it is the woman's body and therefore her decision.   As my husband says, "Women are not breeding machines."

Date Posted: 6/29/2010 12:59 AM ET
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I agree I think it is scary to think anyone could possible tell me what Im allowed to do with my body.Im also frightened by the push by cetain groups who want to overturn Roe VS Wade I use to think nothing like that would ever happen now not so much,

Date Posted: 6/29/2010 1:17 PM ET
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Add me to the pro-choice camp.  I agree that it is the woman who has to make the decision if she want to have the baby or not. Only if a woman chooses to have the baby out of her own free will , only then the child will be raised in a loving environment without resentment or anger. 

And then there are the very extreme groups who are saying, that even the 'pill after the morning' to avoid a pregnancy is abortion.  Sheesh!.  Hard for me to follow that argument.

But then I am a child of the woman's lib movement  and firmly believe that we shouldn't have fought so hard to have certain rights just to have them rescinded and taken away now by an ultra conservative christian right-wing movement.

Angie

 

Date Posted: 6/29/2010 4:48 PM ET
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Totally agree. NOT a government issue.

I especially am offended by the right-wing folks who try to make their anti-abortion agenda seem better by allowing for exemptions in cases of rape and incest.  Have they not seen how slow our judicial system works?  Can you imagine being raped, getting prgenant, then having to prove that 1) you were raped to begin with and 2) that the baby you're carrying is a result of that rape? Can you imagine how long a court case like that would take?  And the woman's reputation would be ruined in the process, while the defendants lawyers do their best to paint her as a "loose woman" or a slut or whatever ....

Make up your mind, I say.  It's either Abortion or no Abortion.  There is no middle ground on this. IMO.

Date Posted: 7/4/2010 10:58 PM ET
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Date Posted: 7/5/2010 2:44 PM ET
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the whole question would be so much easier to think about and discuss if people could ever get straight in their minds that sex involves recreation AND procreation, and if we had some consensus on the use of contraception (especially these days, now that there is safe, effective and not unpleasant to use contraception) . . . . .and straighten out the kind of thinking that sees 'sex' as a kind of hygienic thing (!)  It isn't really like taking a shower or brushing and flossing one's teeth, is it?

Date Posted: 7/5/2010 11:07 PM ET
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I, too, don't think it should be a political issue. It's a personal issue. My body, my choice. End of story. Abortion was around before the government made it legal. It's not going to go away. All those people who think laws or politics will make it magically go away are fooling themselves. The only thing that happens when politics comes into it is that more women die from back alley abortions. I find it so ironic that the pro-life people want to make abortion illegal, knowing that women will STILL seek abortions, and as a result more of them will die from complications. This doesn't sound very pro-life to me.

I firmly believe this is a personal issue, and I wish the government would stay out of it. Personal freedom is something I feel VERY strongly about!

Date Posted: 7/6/2010 12:26 AM ET
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Date Posted: 7/9/2010 5:29 PM ET
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I had a friend who got pregnant and was told by the doctor that the process of carrying the baby would kill her (no doubt whatsoever) and most likely kill the child (she was taking some antibiotics and totally didn't think that her birth control wouldn't work).  Unfortuantely the medical group that he worked with would allow abortions under NO circumstances, so we had to go to the clinic to get it performed.  So, the security gaurd walks to the car to get us (shield us from the daily protesters) and I went out and smoked while she was getting it done.  They all shouted things at me the whole time I was smoking, so I went out and started talking to the leader.  I was point-blank told that it didn't matter that she and the baby would both die if she didn't, that the slim chance that the baby could be born was worth more than her life.  I have issues with the idea that a slight potential for life is worth more than one that already exists.

Vent over: resume normal procedures

Date Posted: 7/9/2010 11:39 PM ET
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Apparently it is not uncommon for pro-life women who have been protesting outside clinics to come in for abortions, or bring in their daughters, and then go right back out front and scream at other women.  Disgusting.

Date Posted: 7/19/2010 10:27 AM ET
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Yup, it's a medical procedure and none of the goverment's business.

However, I also think we could do a much better job at educating people about how to not get pregnant in the first place. Abstience only? Please, be realistic. Let people make informed decisions.

Date Posted: 7/20/2010 1:07 AM ET
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I'm pro-choice.

Date Posted: 10/1/2010 1:34 PM ET
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I also agree that it is a personal decision. I think that there is a huge misconception out there that if you are pro-choice, you are pro-abortion.  I don't know about the rest of you, but I would of course prefer that they didn't happen.  However, it isn't my place to tell anyone else what they can and can't do, especially when I don't have to live their life. I don't think any politician should have that right either.

Date Posted: 10/2/2010 12:06 AM ET
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yep exactly I love the Pro Lifers they went on and on how octomom did the right thing by not aborting any of the fetus.But now that she is broke ,losing her home and having to go on welfare where are all these people why dont they break out those check books and help these children that the fetus grow into.They only care about the fetus not the baby once its born.thats the flaw in there logic. It;s nobodys business I would prefer we all were respondsible and used birth control but sometimes it fails and some people aren;t educated at the age they become active so this is just one option that is out there

Date Posted: 10/2/2010 1:22 AM ET
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Exactly....don't have an abortion single mom, but don't dare be on welfare!!!  Don't exactly understand the logic.

As for educating your children. I would think that parent's would want birth control taught if they aren't willing.  These people act like the worst thing that could come from unprotected sex is a baby.  What about a disease that could kill your child????

Date Posted: 10/3/2010 7:20 PM ET
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Parents act life if they talk to there children about sex they will rush out and become sex crazed. Personally I think because i talked to my kids so much about sex the respondsibility the dieases unwanted pregnancies how do u want to remember your first time that my kids I think made good choice about when to become sexually active with who they desided to share the experince with and using birth control .They also knew they could come to me and talk about sex freely. Everybody hopes there chidren dont have sex before they are older in a serious relationship but the chances of that are slim. Our kids are bombarded with sexual innuendo and sexual imagery on a daily basis. So as parents we need to adjust to the realities . There would be less abortions if kids could get birth control when they think they are at risk for becoming sexually active.Just my opioion.The bigger picture being most right to lifers also are involved in the no sex til marriage movement .



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